The myth of voter fraud

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apple0154 said:
How about having a registered voter attest to knowing the individual who doesn't have proper ID. I would imagine most unregistered voters know someone who could join them.
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Some Republicans are trying to remove the affidavit option.

They claim their intent is to prevent voter impersonation, whch is already less frequent than fatal lightning strikes.
 
\\(())// said:
Untrue.

More than 21 million citizens — 11 percent of the population — do not have government ID cards.
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And 55% of Americans dont vote. Most all of the 11% without ID being in that 11%. Revealing, the easiest statistic to collect would be the # of voters who showed up to the polls without ID that voted. And here everyone is running around collecting data on people without ID, regardless if they ever had any intent of voting.
 
dixon76710 said:
Fatal lighting strikes are easy to detect. Voter fraud is difficult to detect and is likely, rarely detected when it does occur.
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Can you prove your assertion that "voter fraud is difficult to detect and is likely, rarely detected when it does occur"?

BTW, what's a 'fatal lighting strike'? I was talking about lightning.
 
dixon76710 said:
And 55% of Americans dont vote. Most all of the 11% without ID being in that 11%. Revealing, the easiest statistic to collect would be the # of voters who showed up to the polls without ID that voted. And here everyone is running around collecting data on people without ID, regardless if they ever had any intent of voting.
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Really? Cite the source for your claims.
 
\\(())// said:
Did you mean "you're", genius?

Cite the source of your assertion that "Statistics counted people of voting age withut ID, NOT "legally registered" voters without ID."
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Its your source. Lets see if we can attract your focus to the relevant parts

25 percent of African-American citizens of voting age do not have a current, government-issued ID
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evince said:
that is a lie Damo and too keep pretending its true is nothing more than accepting lies on your part
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It isn't. The law in question ensured that there was no undue burden on them, which was one of the reasons that previous laws of that type were overturned by the same court.

The reality is they wrote a law that was accepted by the courts after each of these objections had been dealt with in previous rulings on other laws. The lie would be to ignore the past of these types of laws and pretend that nothing had been done to address those issues. The same burden it would take to register to vote that is all it would take to get this ID card, and at the same cost.
 
\\(())// said:
Really? Cite the source for your claims.
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72% of eligible voters are registered, 63% voter turnout of registerd voters in the last Pres election, 45% of eligible voters in America vote.
I could provide dozens of links, but you and I both know, there wouldnt be any point.
 
dixon76710 said:
72% of eligible voters are registered, 63% voter turnout of registerd voters in the last Pres election, 45% of eligible voters in America vote. I could provide dozens of links, but you and I both know, there wouldnt be any point.
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You could, but didn't?

Is it possible that the intent of the new laws touted by righties is to prevent minorities from voting in higher than usual numbers?
 
Alias said:
Then make sure they are legal to vote. Their financial status means nothing. This is just more class warfare from the left. Get over it.
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Over the past century, our nation expanded the franchise and knocked down myriad barriers to full electoral participation.


In 2011, however, that momentum abruptly shifted.


Thirty-four states have introduced — and seven have passed — strict laws requiring photo IDs.


That may not seem like a big deal, but 11% of American citizens do not possess a government-issued photo ID; that is over 21 million citizens — and poor and black Americans are disproportionately represented in that total.




http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...e-in-virginia/2011/08/25/gIQABXXqQP_blog.html
 
\\(())// said:
Over the past century, our nation expanded the franchise and knocked down myriad barriers to full electoral participation.


In 2011, however, that momentum abruptly shifted.


Thirty-four states have introduced — and seven have passed — strict laws requiring photo IDs.


That may not seem like a big deal, but 11% of American citizens do not possess a government-issued photo ID; that is over 21 million citizens — and poor and black Americans are disproportionately represented in that total.




http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...e-in-virginia/2011/08/25/gIQABXXqQP_blog.html
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Requiring a photo ID is not a barrier to voting. Get over it. Poor people get a driver's license every day. No problem. If they can get a driver's license, they can get a photo ID. Stop using people as victims for your class warfare. It's not working.
 
Alias said:
Requiring a photo ID is not a barrier to voting. Get over it. Poor people get a driver's license every day. No problem. If they can get a driver's license, they can get a photo ID. Stop using people as victims for your class warfare. It's not working.
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A major probe by the Justice Department between 2002 and 2007 failed to prosecute a single person for going to the polls and impersonating an eligible voter, which the anti-fraud laws are supposedly designed to stop.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-gop-war-on-voting-20110830#ixzz1i3W6qagJ
 
\\(())// said:
A major probe by the Justice Department between 2002 and 2007 failed to prosecute a single person for going to the polls and impersonating an eligible voter, which the anti-fraud laws are supposedly designed to stop.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-gop-war-on-voting-20110830#ixzz1i3W6qagJ
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Crock of shit from a left wing propaganda rag. We're being set up for the election loss to be blamed on republicans stopping poor people from voting. Aint gonna work.
 
Alias said:
Crock of shit from a left wing propaganda rag. We're being set up for the election loss to be blamed on republicans stopping poor people from voting. Aint gonna work.
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So you're prepared to prove that the Justice Department probe is invalid? Yes, or no?
 
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