The myth of voter fraud

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Legion dune is all about forcing people to buy thousands of dollars of insurance they don't need but don't ask for a $10 I'd requirement. What a huge idiot when you are 100 percent behind nancy!
 
No one has done more to stir up fears about the manufactured threat of voter fraud than Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, a top adviser in the Bush Justice Department who has become a rising star in the GOP.

"We need a Kris Kobach in every state," declared Michelle Malkin, the conservative pundit.

This year, Kobach successfully fought for a law requiring every Kansan to show proof of citizenship in order to vote – even though the state prosecuted only one case of voter fraud in the past five years. The new restriction fused anti-immigrant hysteria with voter-fraud paranoia.

"In Kansas, the illegal registration of alien voters has become pervasive," Kobach claimed, offering no substantiating evidence.

Kobach also asserted that dead people were casting ballots, singling out a deceased Kansan named Alfred K. Brewer as one such zombie voter.

There was only one problem: Brewer was still very much alive. The Wichita Eagle found him working in his front yard. "I don't think this is heaven," Brewer told the paper. "Not when I'm raking leaves."


http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-gop-war-on-voting-20110830#ixzz1hmujmYPY
 
The Dude said:
Legion dune is all about forcing people to buy thousands of dollars of insurance they don't need but don't ask for a $10 I'd requirement. What a huge idiot when you are 100 percent behind nancy!
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to be fair, the issues are not related. there should be nothing that inhibits voting. what i don't understand is how the left can claim an ID inhibits voting. how can anyone survive in modern society without an ID? cash a check? rent an apartment? fill out an application? maybe if you completely homeless....otherwise, you simply cannot survive without an ID. further, if the IDs are provided free of charge to thindignantnt, the left's faux outrage is truly pathetic.
 
Since January, six states have introduced legislation to impose new restrictions on voter registration drives run by groups like Rock the Vote and the League of Women Voters.


In May, the GOP-controlled legislature in Florida passed a law requiring anyone who signs up new voters to hand in registration forms to the state board of elections within 48 hours of collecting them, and to comply with a barrage of onerous, bureaucratic requirements.


Those found to have submitted late forms would face a $1,000 fine, as well as possible felony prosecution.



http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-gop-war-on-voting-20110830#ixzz1hn0MFKec
 
apple0154 said:
Yes, it is. The people who are most affected by the current laws are the ones being denied the democratic right to voice their opposition by being denied the right to vote in order to have the laws changed. For example, those charged under the drug laws are being denied their constitutional right to vote for a candidate who campaigns on changing those laws. Simply amazing, indeed!
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And those who have killed someone are being denied their constitutional right to vote for a candidate who campaigns on changing those laws.

And those who rape women are being denied their constitutional right to vote for a candidate who campaigns on changing those laws.

And those who molest children are being denied their constitutional right to vote for a candidate who campaigns on changing those laws.

etc.

etc.


Simply amazing indeed. :D
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
And those who have killed someone are being denied their constitutional right to vote for a candidate who campaigns on changing those laws.

And those who rape women are being denied their constitutional right to vote for a candidate who campaigns on changing those laws.

And those who molest children are being denied their constitutional right to vote for a candidate who campaigns on changing those laws.

etc.

etc.


Simply amazing indeed. :D
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We have four times as many adults in prison as any other industrialised nation. Of course this is just job security to you but to automaticaly deny the vote to anyone convicted justly or unjustly is moraly repugnant.
 
Return of Dune said:
We have four times as many adults in prison as any other industrialised nation. Of course this is just job security to you but to automaticaly deny the vote to anyone convicted justly or unjustly is moraly repugnant.
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So you want the guy who rapes your wife, voting for someone who believes that women can't be raped?
 
Republicans have long tried to drive Democratic voters away from the polls. "I don't want everybody to vote," the influential conservative activist Paul Weyrich told a gathering of evangelical leaders in 1980. "As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down." But since the 2010 election, thanks to a conservative advocacy group founded by Weyrich, the GOP's effort to disrupt voting rights has been more widespread and effective than ever. In a systematic campaign orchestrated by the American Legislative Exchange Council – and funded in part by David and Charles Koch, the billionaire brothers who bankrolled the Tea Party – 38 states introduced legislation this year designed to impede voters at every step of the electoral process.


A major probe by the Justice Department between 2002 and 2007 failed to prosecute a single person for going to the polls and impersonating an eligible voter, which the anti-fraud laws are supposedly designed to stop. Out of the 300 million votes cast in that period, federal prosecutors convicted only 86 people for voter fraud – and many of the cases involved immigrants and former felons who were simply unaware of their ineligibility. A much-hyped investigation in Wisconsin, meanwhile, led to the prosecution of only .0007 percent of the local electorate for alleged voter fraud. "Our democracy is under siege from an enemy so small it could be hiding anywhere," joked Stephen Colbert.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-gop-war-on-voting-20110830#ixzz1hmfFPL1C
 
By far the biggest change in election rules for 2012 is the number of states requiring a government-issued photo ID, the most important tactic in the Republican war on voting.


In April 2008, the Supreme Court upheld a photo-ID law in Indiana, even though state GOP officials couldn't provide a single instance of a voter committing the type of fraud the new ID law was supposed to stop.


Emboldened by the ruling, Republicans launched a nationwide effort to implement similar barriers to voting in dozens of states.


The campaign was coordinated by the American Legislative Exchange Council, which provided GOP legislators with draft legislation based on Indiana's ID requirement.


In five states that passed such laws in the past year – Kansas, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Wisconsin – the measures were sponsored by legislators who are members of ALEC.


http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-gop-war-on-voting-20110830#ixzz1hp0dDgV0
 
Alias said:
No one is being denied their right to vote. Having rules and qualifications for driving a car does not deny you the right to drive a car. Stop being so damn silly.
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I was referring to felons not being allowed to vote. Try to comprehend what is written. I wrote, "For example, those charged under the drug laws are being denied their constitutional right to vote for a candidate who campaigns on changing those laws."
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
And those who have killed someone are being denied their constitutional right to vote for a candidate who campaigns on changing those laws.

And those who rape women are being denied their constitutional right to vote for a candidate who campaigns on changing those laws.

And those who molest children are being denied their constitutional right to vote for a candidate who campaigns on changing those laws.

etc.

etc.


Simply amazing indeed. :D
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There are many different laws classified as a felony. :) Or were you not aware of that?
 
The issue is whether voter impersonation, the only type of electoral fraud that voter ID laws can prevent, actually exist. And it does, albeit extraordinarily rarely. The trouble is that there are other more effective ways to steal elections than actually getting people to show up at the polling place pretending to be someone they aren't.
 
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