The only way for there to be peace in Israel/Palestine

Cypress said:
Agreed, the Palestinains have some legitimate grievances. But no one is going to care about that when Palestinian terrorists are caught on video chasing terrified and unarmed civilians, and expressing ecstatic joy and triumph when they gun their victims down.

Optics are always going to trump some UN policy position paper.
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I agree, but truth be told, no on cares about Israel's decades of atrocities

And that does NOT excuse Hamas. They regularly attack Israel with minor incidents which will do nothing to change the situation.

Most of the world does not know about the atrocities perpetrated on the Palestinian people. It doesn't get coverage, and if someone dares to discuss it they get shouted down. Because as you said...Hamas creates horrible optics that distracts from what is actually happening.

Both sides are wrong, and Hamas makes it evident that any olive branch Israel offers will be refused. There are some big gestures Israel could make that would help all of Palestine's citizens. It seems that most in the region will not back down from their refusal to recognize Israel.

I have to wonder if returning control of Palestine's natural resources would be an effective first step?

I don't remember Israel even considering it?
 
Genocide would work even more efficiently and would also improve humanity's gene pool.

I liked the WTC Twin Towers a lot more than the ugly monstrosity they built to replace them.
I also have a Sicilian's memory.

To err is human,
but to forgive is not our policy.

Jihadists serve no purpose in the global population.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Genocide would work even more efficiently and would also improve humanity's gene pool.

I liked the WTC Twin Towers a lot more than the ugly monstrosity they built to replace them.
I also have a Sicilian's memory.

To err is human,
but to forgive is not our policy.

Jihadists serve no purpose in the global population.
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Most of the people on this thread serve no purpose in the global population.
 
volsrock said:
The land was won in war that was waged against them
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It was waged against Jordan, Syria, and Egypt...not the Palestinian people and not on behalf of the Palestinian people.

After all, those nations kept the Palestinians in camps rather than absorb them into their countries since 1948, not 1967.
 
Doc Dutch said:
1. Typical pro-Hamas BS. They won't quit until all the Jews are dead and pushed into the sea.
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Withdrawing from the WB and Gaza doesn't make Israel go away as a nation. It still exists. Why are you so dead set on protecting a bunch of welfare leeches in the occupied territories? Normal Israelis don't live there...just these religious whackos who don't even serve in the IDF.


2. They won't because the Iranian-supported Palestinians are suicidal, antisemitic nutjobs. The rest of the Palestinians simply want to care for their families.
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It might interest you to know that about 20 years ago, a certain Republican President sought to democratize the middle east and the result was an election in the territories that established the Palestinian Authority and made Mahmoud Abbass the head of it.

Then Netanyahu came along and bolstered Hamas (this is actually documented fact) over the Palestinian Authority and undermined the entire purpose of Bush's push for democratizing the middle east.

Now, because there's no singular Palestinian government, Hamas seizes control...and they oppress the Palestinians in Gaza too.
 
guno said:
Israel will not give up Jerusalem and the western wall, before Israel retook it the Arabs banned all Jews from even praying there. Strange how Israel doesn't ban the Arabs from praying at their mosque there.

The Arabs pre 1967 had no interest in making peace then , in fact in the Palestinian charter it calls for the destruction of all Jews , so Israel should with draw to 1967 boarders?

If the Arabs lose they go lick tick their wounds , if Israel loses , Israel is finished


A Short History of Palestinian Rejectionism


The consistent and enduring Palestinian rejection of any and all peace initiatives with Israel, most recently the “Deal of the Century,” calls into question the commitment of the Palestinian leadership not only to peace but to the very welfare and safety of the Palestinian people.

Taking into account all the peace initiatives proposed to end the conflict between the Jews and the Palestinian Arabs over the last 83 years, we must consider the possibility that the Palestinians—or at least their leaders—do not want to establish their own state.

https://besacenter.org/palestinian-rejectionism/
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I actually believe that Jerusalem should become a city-state under the jurisdiction of the United Nations.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Oh look, another pile of shit Nazi democrat praising the Hamas attack on Jews.
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Please Nazi, point out specifically where in my post I praised Hamas.

I'll even post it again because I know you have a hard time backing up that big, fat, fucking mouth of yours:

There are two things that must happen in order for there to be peace in the region:

1. Israel must fully withdraw from all lands seized in 1967, and the settlements must be turned over to the Palestinians.

2. The Palestinians must unite under a single governing authority that has the power to negotiate deals on behalf of them all. Hamas might control Gaza but it does not control the West Bank or East Jerusalem. Israel needs a legitimate partner in order to negotiate peace and Hamas ain't it, mostly because there are 1.5M Palestinians outside of Gaza.
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Fucking Nazi Conservative perverts are always trying to divide people.
 
Cypress said:
I'm sure you thought that was clever and witty when you were typing it. Keep your day job, and don't expect your flaccid attempts at satire to get any chuckles at a neighborhood party.
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Hey, a Marxist sheep like you has to keep step with the party...
 
JesusAI said:
so is this what we've become?

a nation fighting over who supports israel the most?

just like bidens serving president xi better than all other crime families?
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This attack by the Muzzie Beasts is very much like 9-11.

It wasn't just scum like Guno dancing in the streets as the towers fell, but people I have viewed as decent, justifying the terrorist with tales of how America brought this on ourselves.

This attack is very much like that one, cowardly and brutal. These are the same animals that attacked us, who clearly have not learned their lesson yet.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
This attack by the Muzzie Beasts is very much like 9-11.

It wasn't just scum like Guno dancing in the streets as the towers fell, but people I have viewed as decent, justifying the terrorist with tales of how America brought this on ourselves.

This attack is very much like that one, cowardly and brutal. These are the same animals that attacked us, who clearly have not learned their lesson yet.
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brought on ouselves like you mean a false flag on 911?
 
JesusAI said:
brought on ouselves like you mean a false flag on 911?
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