The origins of welfare state capitalism

Truth Detector said:
Where anywhere in any of my posts did I say Libertarianism? #strawman

Where's your Socialist Utopia? Venezuela? Cuba? #STFU
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Most of the economic growth champion periods have been Socialist.

FDR achieved the #1 economic growth with Socialism in 20th century US history.

National Socialist Germany achieved even faster economic growth than FDR.

Japan achieved the #1 economic growth with Socialism in the 20th century.

Spain achieved the #2 economic growth with Socialism in the 20th century.

China since 1990 has achieved perhaps the biggest miracle of all, using Socialism to lift so many out of poverty, with top rate economic growth.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
Go ahead then, debunk Einstein's 'relative time theory'. Explain, if you would, why GPS satellites are programmed to take account of relativistic time dilation.

This should be interesting.
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gee, time line logistics doesn't accept time being stationary. perpetual balancing cycles compounding instantaneously here at different variables.
 
Cypress said:
Here is my plug for market economies. Such as they are.

The emerging market economies of India and China have lifted hundreds of millions of people out of abject poverty.

The socialist model India was trying to follow in the 1960s and 70s obviously pales in comparison.
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The socialism of India's Indira Gandhi was really just a bridge too far. She turned India inwards, severely restricted trade, and imposed way too much government restriction on the domestic economy.

This desire to be entirely self sufficient was understandable given India's experience with foreign domination, but it did not equate to good economic policy.

India’s Future
The growth in India has been truly remarkable, yet it occurred at rates that are consistent with a low-income nation adding capital and reversing highly restrictive policies toward free markets. Looking back, it’s easy to see that much of the success of India in the 1990s stems from the decisions of policymakers to simply stop destroying their own economy through. incredibly restrictive measures. India has seen growth in the IT sector, and it is beginning to see development
in finance and infrastructure. Perhaps more important is the fact that the reforms in India seem to be locked in. In many ways, India is still a preadolescent economy, but now that it has opened up, the combination of its size, growth, and strong democratic tradition mean that the possibilities for India in the 21st century are limitless.

Source credit - Professor Peter Rodriguez, University of Virginia
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Cypress said:
According to professor Muller, Adam Smith's key insight is that a healthy and functioning capitalist state is built first and foremost on a seeming paradox:

The state has to be powerful enough to protect private property, which is the foundation of the profit motive and hence economic growth.

But the state also has to be powerful enough to infringe on private property to tax, regulate, and prevent corporate oligarchy .
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dems ignore the first part.

republicans ignore the second part.
 
serenity said:
gee, time line logistics doesn't accept time being stationary. perpetual balancing cycles compounding instantaneously here at different variables.
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people forget time. they talk about genocide based on limited resources. food grows over time, just like the people.
 
AssHatZombie said:
people forget time. they talk about genocide based on limited resources. food grows over time, just like the people.
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inaccurate. people honor the concept of relative time, not actual time being actively displaced now conception to decomposed is a complete cycle of life per reproduction present now.

See, even you won't acknowledge perpetual motion is a natural condition of the universe being perpetually balancing life between erosion of inorganic position and ancestral points of displacement to total numbers living inception to extinction of "relative species" developed so far either became extinct or still adding reproductions since inception.

Simple compounding conception by contracting results already added details never the sme shape or form formed since added. Your vocabulary cannot keep pace but your brain navigates it every waking moment..
 
serenity said:
inaccurate. people honor the concept of relative time, not actual time being actively displaced now conception to decomposed is a complete cycle of life per reproduction present now.

See, even you won't acknowledge perpetual motion is a natural condition of the universe being perpetually balancing life between erosion of inorganic position and ancestral points of displacement to total numbers living inception to extinction of "relative species" developed so far either became extinct or still adding reproductions since inception.

Simple compounding conception by contracting results already added details never the sme shape or form formed since added. Your vocabulary cannot keep pace but your brain navigates it every waking moment..
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nah. im accurate. people forget time, and blather about eugenics, forgetting food grows like people, and many fields are fallow.
 
Cypress said:
The intellectual foundations of welfare state capitalism: Christianity, liberalism, and socialism.
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We can thank Franklin D. Roosevelt for introducing the country to the welfare state.

We can thank Johnson for massively increasing it with his "War on Poverty" which after spending $20 trillion, resulted in......MORE poverty instead of less.

I cannot imagine anyone with an education past grade school buying into the failed ideology of Socialism and it's end result, Marxism. The greatest fallacy these ideologies have foisted onto the public; that CENTRALIZED governance leads to great results.

Redistribution schemes have NEVER moved anyone out of dependency or welfare rolls. What the Democratic Party of the Jackass has done is promote Government dependency in order to guarantee them a reliable voting bloc. But as we can see in any Democratic controlled Blue State Shit Hole; it has done little to improve anyone's life.

The Democratic Party of the Jackass and their propensity to create dependency and promote victimization was what our founders feared the most.
 
AssHatZombie said:
nah. im accurate. people forget time, and blather about eugenics, forgetting food grows like people, and many fields are fallow.
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relative truism by combined half literal and half figurative truisms. Multiply all three and you are 12.5% accurate as the whole moment goes. Gee that runs parallel to subliminal instincts and socially trained intellect in the brain after birth. What a rational mind society gave you cradle to grave.
 
serenity said:
inaccurate. people honor the concept of relative time, not actual time being actively displaced now conception to decomposed is a complete cycle of life per reproduction present now.

See, even you won't acknowledge perpetual motion is a natural condition of the universe being perpetually balancing life between erosion of inorganic position and ancestral points of displacement to total numbers living inception to extinction of "relative species" developed so far either became extinct or still adding reproductions since inception.

Simple compounding conception by contracting results already added details never the sme shape or form formed since added. Your vocabulary cannot keep pace but your brain navigates it every waking moment..
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you're wrong on this point, airy fairy dipshit. stop being a nazi.
 
AssHatZombie said:
you're wrong on this point, airy fairy dipshit. stop being a nazi.
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See you talk points and I discuss all life has ever been in plain sight so far, during my time living, from now on. And what I describe doesn't change whether I existed or homo sapiens ever existed. Kind of blows your ideology life doesn't exist without vocabulary defining who's who.
 
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