DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
I don't recall Bush getting such a memo. I do recall Clinton setting up Agency requirements basically not allowing them to share information with each other.
"the party of no,""the party of never" and "the party of no new ideas."
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TuTu Monroe
A Realist
The liberals everywhere blame Bush for 9/11. Under whose administration did Bin Laden declare war? I should post all the warnings Clinton got from 1998 on, including flying planes into buildings.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
You bring out the facts and the libs here will bring out excuses. For them, Bush is to blame for global warming and bad breathe.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
when do i get my machine gun?
As soon as you can demonstrate that you can handle a plastic spoon with out lobotomizing AssHat, then you can have a machine gun.
ib1yysguy
Junior Member
You have to be lying. Nobody's so retarded that they haven't heard about the August 6 PDB.
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and pray tell what was "new" in that report that clinton did not also see....
that report talked about stuff since 97'....are you claiming that the report had something so new and fresh that it differed from what clinton also saw? all it talked about was ONGOING investigations....some since 97...osama had been talking about terrorizing our country for a LONG time
christiefan915
Catalyst
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it had been "imminent" since the early 90s....you're kidding right...what about the millenium threats....all "imminent"
but oh no, the one bush's gets, thats the one, all those clinton viewed were phony, is that right....
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Or perhaps you're lying, or simply retarded. http://www.agonist.org/annex/pdb.htm
Kindly point where the word "imminent" is used, because I don't see it.
uscitizen
Villified User
did I say bush was a Nazi? That is apparently your thought though.
Bush was just a dumbass spoiled rich kid who convinced lots of fools to vote for him.
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TuTu Monroe
A Realist
The poster should read the Joint Inquiry Report. Here are excerpts from the report:
The Joint Inquiry outlines a number of U.S. government failures in the years leading up to September 11, 2001. Among the report's findings, the committees concluded that prior to September 11, 2001: The "U.S. Intelligence Community was involved in fighting a 'war' against Bin Ladenlargely without the benefit of what some would call its most potent weapon in that effort: an alert and committed American public."
The report goes on to list three examples of "information that was shared with senior U.S. Government officials, but was not made available to the American public because of its national security classification." This information was "explicit about the gravity and immediacy of the threat posed by Bin Laden" and included "a classified document" signed by President
Clinton in December 1998, which read in part:
"The Intelligence Community has strong indications that Bin Laden intends to conduct or sponsor attacks inside the United States."This conclusion was based on numerous threads of evidence. Beginning in 1998the U.S. intelligence community received regular reporting concerning not only al Qaeda's determination to carry out attacks in the United States but
that the terror group also planned to hijack civilian aircraft. Some of thereporting even specifically referenced the World Trade Center.
On page 124, for example, the Joint Inquiry lists six instances--all prior to 2001--in which the intelligence indicated al Qaeda was planning attacks on U.S. soil:
In June 1998, the Intelligence Community obtained information from severalsources that Osama Bin Laden was considering attacks in the United States,including against Washington, D. C. and New York;
In August 1998, the Intelligence Community obtained information that a groupof unidentified Arabs planned to crash an explosive-laden plane from aforeign country into the World Trade Center;
In September 1998, the Intelligence Community obtained information that Osama Bin Laden's next operation could possibly involve flying an aircraft loaded with explosives into a U.S. airport;
Although the source passed a polygraph, the Bureau was unable to verify anyaspect of his story or identify his contacts in the United States.
ALL OF THIS, and more, led the authors of the Joint Inquiry to conclude that from 1998 through the summer of 2001, the U.S. Intelligence Community was hindered in its counterterrorism efforts by a number of "systemicweaknesses," including:
Despite intelligence reporting from 1998 through the summer of 2001indicating that Osama Bin Laden's terrorist network intended to strike inside the United States, the United States Government did not undertake a comprehensive effort to implement defensive measures in the United States.
The report notes that the intelligence disseminated from 1998 on"encompassed, for example, indications of plots for attacks within theUnited States," including "attacks on civil aviation; assassinations of U.S.public officials; use of high explosives; attacks on Washington, D.C., NewYork City, and cities on the West Coast; crashing aircraft into buildings as weapons; and using weapons of mass destruction."
As with the August 6, 2001 PDB, "the intelligence that was acquired and shared by the Intelligence Community was not specific as to time and place."
Nonetheless, it "should have been sufficient to prompt action to insure a heightened sense of alert and implementation of additional defensive measures."
The Joint Inquiry outlines a number of U.S. government failures in the years leading up to September 11, 2001. Among the report's findings, the committees concluded that prior to September 11, 2001: The "U.S. Intelligence Community was involved in fighting a 'war' against Bin Ladenlargely without the benefit of what some would call its most potent weapon in that effort: an alert and committed American public."
The report goes on to list three examples of "information that was shared with senior U.S. Government officials, but was not made available to the American public because of its national security classification." This information was "explicit about the gravity and immediacy of the threat posed by Bin Laden" and included "a classified document" signed by President
Clinton in December 1998, which read in part:
"The Intelligence Community has strong indications that Bin Laden intends to conduct or sponsor attacks inside the United States."This conclusion was based on numerous threads of evidence. Beginning in 1998the U.S. intelligence community received regular reporting concerning not only al Qaeda's determination to carry out attacks in the United States but
that the terror group also planned to hijack civilian aircraft. Some of thereporting even specifically referenced the World Trade Center.
On page 124, for example, the Joint Inquiry lists six instances--all prior to 2001--in which the intelligence indicated al Qaeda was planning attacks on U.S. soil:
In June 1998, the Intelligence Community obtained information from severalsources that Osama Bin Laden was considering attacks in the United States,including against Washington, D. C. and New York;
In August 1998, the Intelligence Community obtained information that a groupof unidentified Arabs planned to crash an explosive-laden plane from aforeign country into the World Trade Center;
In September 1998, the Intelligence Community obtained information that Osama Bin Laden's next operation could possibly involve flying an aircraft loaded with explosives into a U.S. airport;
Although the source passed a polygraph, the Bureau was unable to verify anyaspect of his story or identify his contacts in the United States.
ALL OF THIS, and more, led the authors of the Joint Inquiry to conclude that from 1998 through the summer of 2001, the U.S. Intelligence Community was hindered in its counterterrorism efforts by a number of "systemicweaknesses," including:
Despite intelligence reporting from 1998 through the summer of 2001indicating that Osama Bin Laden's terrorist network intended to strike inside the United States, the United States Government did not undertake a comprehensive effort to implement defensive measures in the United States.
The report notes that the intelligence disseminated from 1998 on"encompassed, for example, indications of plots for attacks within theUnited States," including "attacks on civil aviation; assassinations of U.S.public officials; use of high explosives; attacks on Washington, D.C., NewYork City, and cities on the West Coast; crashing aircraft into buildings as weapons; and using weapons of mass destruction."
As with the August 6, 2001 PDB, "the intelligence that was acquired and shared by the Intelligence Community was not specific as to time and place."
Nonetheless, it "should have been sufficient to prompt action to insure a heightened sense of alert and implementation of additional defensive measures."
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Actually, you equated Bush with Hitler.
I'm not surprised that you won't admit that.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Why bother? Much easier to say Bush = Hitler and some other liberal mantra.
charver
You lookin' at my pint?
Some people just like simplistic phrases, like that chap calling Obama a fascist at one of your Tea parties.
TuTu Monroe
A Realist
It was very telling how the CNN reporter singled-out that one protester......yes, indeed.
charver
You lookin' at my pint?
Reporters are naturally drawn to shitwits holding daft signs.
TuTu Monroe
A Realist
charver
You lookin' at my pint?
I don't know.
I don't work for CNN. I don't watch CNN. I don't really like CNN.
You could try asking CNN.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Interesting
Why would you be asking that question?
Surely you don't believe any subterfuge could ever happen within the US government.
What are you, a conspiracy theorist?
... very strange.