The relationship between Trump and Musk imploded in spectacular fashion today,

[Cypress]

Agreed and it's a phenomenon that will become the subject of hundreds of doctoral and master's theses over the next century.

My guess is that it's not as much the MAGAts in Congress supporting Trump as it is them fearing their own White Nationalist constituents and losing their jobs. AKA being primaried. Trump used this tactic in the 2018 Midterms even though it cost him the House and all the MAGAts in Congress took notice.

That's the mystery to me.

On one level, I can understand how someone could hold their nose and reluctantly vote for Trump.

But what befuddles me is the cultish loyalty to Trump. You have MAGA morons on JPP who have devoted eight years of their lives to defending and running cover for an unethical sleazebag.

 

[FastLane]

I love how Musk admitted Trump would never have won the election without Musk spending 500 million dollars. That's what I've been saying!

Musk overestimates his contribution. He helped for sure but Trump would have won without him. Harris was a terrible candidate.

 

[FastLane]

That's the mystery to me.

On one level, I can understand how someone could hold their nose and reluctantly vote for Trump.

But what befuddles me is the cultish loyalty to Trump. You have MAGA morons on JPP who have devoted eight years of their lives to defending and running cover for an unethical sleazebag.

You devoted 4 years of your pathetic life to a brain dead moron.

 

[LurchAddams]

This is going to get interesting ​

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As feud spirals, Musk says Trump's tariffs "will cause a recession"​

The relationship between Trump and Musk imploded in spectacular fashion today, with each posting on their respective social media platforms increasingly acrimonious messages.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-president-administration-news-06-05-25

Epstein file accusations, potential contract cuts, impeachment: Trump-Musk feud explodes https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/05/politics/trump-musk-fight-anger-oval-office​

When two incredibly flawed, insecure white supremacists get together this is bound to happen.

 

[FastLane]

When two incredibly flawed, insecure white supremacists get together this is bound to happen.

How dare you call an African American a white supremacist.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

That's the mystery to me.

On one level, I can understand how someone could hold their nose and reluctantly vote for Trump.

But what befuddles me is the cultish loyalty to Trump. You have MAGA morons on JPP who have devoted eight years of their lives to defending and running cover for an unethical sleazebag.

The cultists are a smaller group than the Trump voters who, IMO, were mainly "R" voters.

You and I are both fact-oriented people. We look at the data. In this case, polls, but polls only paint a limited picture. Not only are they snapshots in time, mere indicators of the time when the poll was taken, but the more general they are, the more general the data. It's like going into a hospital where a lot of people have a fever and say "Well, they're all sick". That's a fact, but it doesn't solve the problem. A closer look is necessary to determine the exact nature of the problem.

Note in the PBS link below the "issues that decided the 2024 election" has Immigration at 20% as about "eight times more important" but it doesn't say if those who selected it were for immigration reform or "throwing out all the brown people". Likewise, 11% put abortion as an important issue but, again, doesn't delineate between those who support rights or want to suppress those rights.

Interactive: How key groups of Americans voted in 2024

Donald Trump won a decisive victory in Tuesday's election with support from some demographic groups who have favored him in the past, as well as wider margins from others that have been traditional Democratic strongholds, according to AP VoteCast data.

www.pbs.org

This link notes that Trump garnered an increased percentage of African-American votes, mostly among young men, but doesn't specify why.

https://apnews.com/article/election...black-voters-0f3fbda3362f3dcfe41aa6b858f22d12

Nationally, about 8 in 10 Black voters supported Harris. But, that was down from about 9 in 10 in the last presidential election who went for Biden.

Trump about doubled his share of young Black men – which helped him among key Democratic voting group. About 3 in 10 Black men under the age of 45 went for Trump, roughly double the number he got in 2020.

 

[Into the Night]

This is going to get interesting ​

​

As feud spirals, Musk says Trump's tariffs "will cause a recession"​

The relationship between Trump and Musk imploded in spectacular fashion today, with each posting on their respective social media platforms increasingly acrimonious messages.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-president-administration-news-06-05-25

Epstein file accusations, potential contract cuts, impeachment: Trump-Musk feud explodes https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/05/politics/trump-musk-fight-anger-oval-office​

Wow. You really LOVE that propaganda!

 

[Into the Night]

At great personal cost Musk signed up to help MAGA, and Trump betrayed him.

MAGA isn't a person, Hawk.

 

[Into the Night]

The way that Musk was pushing the budget sure would have affected the average working American in a negative way.

Whataboutism, Blat.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Whataboutism, Blat.

Random words. No apparent coherency.

 

[Into the Night]

And says his tariffs will cause a recession,
That his 'big beautiful bill' is an atrocity,
That Trump would have never won the election without his money,
And that Trump should be impeached.

And you believe every word from the propaganda, don't you?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

MAGA isn't a person, Hawk.

Random words. No apparent coherency.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

And you believe every word from the propaganda, don't you?

LIF. Grow up.

 

[Into the Night]

Just pray to the statues Earl , just pray to the statues

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Just keep praying to the statues Earl , just keep praying to the statues

Isn't praying to idols a violation of the Ten Commandments?

 

[Into the Night]

Just keep praying to the statues Earl , just keep praying to the statues

?? Stuck record. Someone hit him.

 

[Into the Night]

Isn't praying to idols a violation of the Ten Commandments?

Random phrase. No apparent coherency.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Random phrase. No apparent coherency.

Random words. No apparent coherency.

 

[LurchAddams]

How dare you call an African American a white supremacist.

I know - that would make all the South African's during Apartheid all white supremacists.

Like Elon.

 

[Trumpet]

How dare you call an African American a white supremacist.

Are you feeling alright????