The Russia sanctions bite

Sanctions and nukes would be even better.

It's all going to blow up eventually. What are we waiting for?

We whack them. They whack us. We all get to stop worrying about it, right?

At the very least, it might shut up moon.
 
moon said:
The other view;
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Would have more weight were it not authored by a member of the government. Seems to me one headache in this shift toward Africa, India and China must be a loss of identification with Western European culture among
urban Russians especially, most especially young urban Russians.
 
moon said:
Rejecting NATO does not automatically mean embracing Russia. You are a short-sighted flag-waver.
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Trump showed an eagerness to embrace Russia in other ways when he was President. Probably why so many Trumpers defend Russia even now when before Trump almost no one on the Right would have.
 
Trumpet said:
Far from being ineffective or disappointing, as many have argued, international sanctions and voluntary business retreats have exerted a devastating effect over Russia’s economy. The deteriorating economy has served as a powerful if underappreciated complement to the deteriorating political landscape facing Putin.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/07/22/russia-economy-sanctions-myths-ruble-business/
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It will take some more time, but Russia is coming apart at the seams. They've continued to export billions in oil at greatly reduced prices to China/India.

Can't blame them for taking advantage of bargain basement oil.


But...the Russian version of McDonalds can't even get potatoes to make fries. The people are living worse than they did when the USSR dissolved and Putin absconded with all of the money.

We don't get much truth out of Russia, but the citizens are suffering.
 
We dont have much of any visibility as to what is going on in Russia, and Western leaders and experts have proven to be too dishonest to be believed. You know how fucked we are when the claims of the known liars Ukraine are taken as if they are the undisputed truth.
 
martin said:
Trump showed an eagerness to embrace Russia in other ways when he was President.
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LMAO. it's called "diplomacy" :palm:
Now the Russian Hoax precludes diplomacy -even talking to Putin made Trump into collusion
yet Russia did not invade Ukraine, or pull out of the ISS like they just did

The Ukraine war is the ultimate failure of diplomacy -enjoy
 
evince said:
Why would putin do that?
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Putin's not the one doing it; It's Biden and his advisors doing things that could potentially make all Americans 15% poorer.

Strangling oil production, sanctions that may strengthen ties between Russia and China and sever Russo-Europe trade.

So Europe needs oil and gas, and Biden's selling ours to China.

This winter will be eventful for sure.
 
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