The Silver Lining in Walker's Victory?

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

it would be an interesting argument if true.....however the Wisconsin State Journal audited the contribution records and concluded the unions spent as much as the right did.....that's been linked to this board at least five times that I can specifically recall....I doubt very much you missed it......yet you continue to state what is not true.......how do you explain that?.....

You could literally have fallen off a turnip truck in Bumfuck, MS and you would still have enough sense to realize how much time, effort and money the Liberals have spent trying to destroy Scott Walker. This is the most ironic spin they've thought up yet, and I don't know who they think they are fooling. Runed wants to pretend it was merely the unions campaigning against Walker, but we all know this isn't true either, the conservative can always expect the unions to campaign against them, this was quite different. It's not often a politician running for state office, has to compete with a consorted national witch hunt. It's even less often, they prevail in such dominating fashion.

 

[Disillusioned]

They had the election, they lost. They had a second election, they lost again.

 

[Rune]

it would be an interesting argument if true.....however the Wisconsin State Journal audited the contribution records and concluded the unions spent as much as the right did.....that's been linked to this board at least five times that I can specifically recall....I doubt very much you missed it......yet you continue to state what is not true.......how do you explain that?.....

Seeing how this is my first comment on the situation, I don't see how I can be continuing to state what is not true. A trusted friend used that figure on a different forum.
Perhaps you could provide some evidence of your claim?

 

[Damocles]

The 1/3 union member/union household voting Republican is about the same as it has been for the past few elections.

The main difference. After Walker made it so people could leave the union and keep their jobs they lost about 2/3 of their membership. Those that are left in the union are the people who I wouldn't see doing that. Or can you give me a logical reason that people who don't agree with them would stay?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Seeing how this is my first comment on the situation, I don't see how I can be continuing to state what is not true. A trusted friend used that figure on a different forum.
Perhaps you could provide some evidence of your claim?

yes, over and over and over again......I didn't realize you hadn't visited the board since the election.........read the threads since Tuesday and get back to me if you still have any questions.....

 

[tinfoil]

Is it? I read this interview with a man who was against unions. And he was very angry. He was angry because they get good retirement plans and he doesn't. He was angry because they have good benefits and he doesn't.

Instead of looking at that and saying, hey you know what? We should all have that! A lot more of us used to! Remember? And this country prospered! They look at it and snarl - I don't have it why should HE. And it comes out like a hiss.

There is something wrong with Americans. They are tortured by the possibility that someone in their basic socio-economic class, someone they consider their equal or below, is getting something they're not getting. I mean, this shit keeps them up nights. They have been brainwashed into believing that the elite earned it and have it coming, and are in some way better than everyone else. But the idea that some Joe Schmo, just like me, might be doing a little better, well, that is not going to be tolerated.

And so they and their hate serve their masters well.

No, don't let Americans off the hook. There's a reason we are the only industrialized nation without universal health care - hatred of blacks. That's just historical fact. I'm not going to go into details to educate the cheap seats. We're really not a good people and I suppose in the end, we get what we deserve.

first, there is a difference between private sector unions and public sector unions which are funded by tax payers. learn the difference and you'll be on your way to understanding the arguments. People have a problem with government employees unionizing to fight the tax payers. They already work for the rule-makers so having unions is superfluous