The Tesla hype

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Thanks for admitting you have no counter argument.

How does it feel to be repeatedly pwned in your own thread, dumbass?

I have countered.

 

[Rune]

So answer the question, Einstein.

Seriously?
Internal combustion engines have an efficiency of 20% for gasoline, 30% for diesel.
Electric motors operate at over 90% efficiency.

Can you figure the rest out for yourself?

 

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Seriously?
Internal combustion engines have an efficiency of 20% for gasoline, 30% for diesel.
Electric motors operate at over 90% efficiency.

Can you figure the rest out for yourself?

The electricity still has to be created to recharge those wonderful batteries you masturbate over.

BTW, you have gone over your self proclaimed allotment of responses to my thread. Just sayin

 

[Rune]

I have countered.

You call this a counter;

Originally Posted by I Love America
You can't help yourself bitch. You obviously don't understand.

BTW, given your poor health should you really be wishing ill on someone like that? tsk tsk tsp. for shame


And Dumb Yankee thanks you for it?

This is you why idiots are considered idiots.


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[canceled.2021.1]

You call this a counter;

Originally Posted by I Love America
You can't help yourself bitch. You obviously don't understand.

BTW, given your poor health should you really be wishing ill on someone like that? tsk tsk tsp. for shame


And Dumb Yankee thanks you for it?

This is you why idiots are considered idiots.


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Bottom line bitch is that their profits are coming from selling credits not selling cars. The cars are not profitable yet. Now, I have not said that selling the credits is not legitimate. Just don't try to pass them off as some success of selling electric cars because they are not.

END OF STORY

I win. You lose.

 

[Rune]

The electricity still has to be created to recharge those wonderful batteries you masturbate over.

BTW, you have gone over your self proclaimed allotment of responses to my thread. Just sayin

Do you understand even simple math? The electric car uses half the energy overall regardless of the method of generation and despite transmission losses.
Furthermore, despite Dumb Yankee's claim that only nukes are non-poluting (?) he leaves out hydro, wind, solar, tidal, geo-thermal and bio-mass to name a few options.

Many electric car owners can provide their own entire motive energy source simply from roof mounted photo-voltaic panels, wind mills and mini- hydro set ups.

 

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Do you understand even simple math? The electric car uses half the energy overall regardless of the method of generation and despite transmission losses.
Furthermore, despite Dumb Yankee's claim that only nukes are non-poluting (?) he leaves out hydro, wind, solar, tidal, geo-thermal and bio-mass to name a few options.

Many electric car owners can provide their own entire motive energy source simply from roof mounted photo-voltaic panels, wind mills and mini- hydro set ups.

all of what you claim has yet to be proven in the marketplace. if they were viable options, there would be all sorts of private capital flowing to these projects in the hopes of reaping millions. the money is not flowing.

so don't give me your wishful bullshit. wind and solar are a scam, you can get as much reliable electricity from unicorn wings.

 

[Canceled.2014.1]

Sorry but you don't dictate what I respond to.

You like other nimrods seem to be very adept at arguing things I didn't claim. I didn't claim that selling the credits is "new".

The entire point which apparently is lost on you was that Tesla is not this stunning success of selling electric cars. Now I could point you to the threads that hyped this after they posted earnings. The point was that there is more to the story. It was being passed off as if their so called "success story" was 100% due to selling cars. As I showed that is not the case. As the articles point out selling those credits are not sustainable. Ask Enron.

As for your Amazon non sequitur, it is irrelevant because Amazon wasn't relying on taxpayer dollars the way Tesla did.


Now kindly go fuck yourself. With all due respect of course

Tesla made a profit selling cars. Not a big profit, but a profit nonetheless. For a startup company breaking into a business that has not had a fresh face in the US in over 50 years, that is saying something.

Yes, they made more money selling environmental indulgences. That sounds like good business to me. Unlike the other, bigger, auto companies, Telsa's entire line gets the credits. But then, they are not passing laws to make the other brands harder to sell in NC (and possibly other places).

 

[Rune]

all of what you claim has yet to be proven in the marketplace. if they were viable options, there would be all sorts of private capital flowing to these projects in the hopes of reaping millions. the money is not flowing.

so don't give me your wishful bullshit. wind and solar are a scam, you can get as much reliable electricity from unicorn wings.

You have no idea what you are talking about, whatsoever, and I am not going to waste time educating you. Go fuck yourself with a rasp.

 

[DamnYankee]

Seriously?
Internal combustion engines have an efficiency of 20% for gasoline, 30% for diesel.
Electric motors operate at over 90% efficiency.

Can you figure the rest out for yourself?

Your numbers are off, low for internal combustion and high for electric, but you're on the right track. Of course you're ignoring what I was referring to, the pollution issues of battery manufacturing and disposal, line losses from electrical transmission, and the fact that much of our electricity is made by burning coal, which is itself inefficient...

 

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You have no idea what you are talking about, whatsoever, and I am not going to waste time educating you. Go fuck yourself with a rasp.

Yep, you keep saying you aren't going to respond then you respond. You should watch your anger. Your ticker might not be able to take it. Turn up the dobutamine drip

 

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Tesla made a profit selling cars. Not a big profit, but a profit nonetheless. For a startup company breaking into a business that has not had a fresh face in the US in over 50 years, that is saying something.

Yes, they made more money selling environmental indulgences. That sounds like good business to me. Unlike the other, bigger, auto companies, Telsa's entire line gets the credits. But then, they are not passing laws to make the other brands harder to sell in NC (and possibly other places).

Spin away buddy. You are merely proving my point.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

What I guess I like best about the final, conclusive and uncontrovertible capital "t" Truth that Tesla is a big fraud is that it comes from an investment advice webiste that currently recommends Tesla to its readership.

LOLerpops.

This is an example of what happens when ignorant people try to politicise a topic they don't know jack shit about. Tesla's rock!! And not because they're electric but because they look cool as hell and they run like a bat out of hell (a very quiet one!).

 

[Mott the Hoople]

Don't these things just cause pollution somewhere else? That is, unless the electricity is made from Nuke power, which liberals despise.

That's true and by the standards of source minimization that's an unacceptable mass transfer but dude....have an open mind......these cars rock based on their own merit and not just because they are electric. Tesla's are way cool high performance cars that just happen to be electric.

http://www.teslamotors.com/roadster

 

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This is an example of what happens when ignorant people try to politicise a topic they don't know jack shit about. Tesla's rock!! And not because they're electric but because they look cool as hell and they run like a bat out of hell (a very quiet one!).

I wouldn't give a fiddlers fuck if my tax dollars weren't propping them up dumb ass. Let them rise or fall on their own. But, your poor ass ain't buying one.

 

[DamnYankee]

This is an example of what happens when ignorant people try to politicise a topic they don't know jack shit about. Tesla's rock!! And not because they're electric but because they look cool as hell and they run like a bat out of hell (a very quiet one!).

I did a bit of research on one, I think it was the S model, a month or so back, to replace my wife's car when the time comes. It was originally supposed to have an AWD option and it no longer does. The battery is built into the floor of the chassis which is very interesting, but may cause replacement issues. There is a more powerful battery with a longer warranty but its a $10,000 option. The 17" touch screen computer that basically runs every accessory is cool, but overly complex IMO (I don't like the BMW I-drive either).

The cost is basically twice what you can pay for a gas engine car with better performance. Unless you drive a lot of miles every year, and do so in 150 mile increments, the cost can't be justified.

 

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it is interesting that Tesla has ZERO union members, guess they want to keep their costs down

 

[Mott the Hoople]

I did a bit of research on one, I think it was the S model, a month or so back, to replace my wife's car when the time comes. It was originally supposed to have an AWD option and it no longer does. The battery is built into the floor of the chassis which is very interesting, but may cause replacement issues. There is a more powerful battery with a longer warranty but its a $10,000 option. The 17" touch screen computer that basically runs every accessory is cool, but overly complex IMO (I don't like the BMW I-drive either).

The cost is basically twice what you can pay for a gas engine car with better performance. Unless you drive a lot of miles every year, and do so in 150 mile increments, the cost can't be justified.

Hey no doubt it's aimed at the high end of the market and they haven't proven their design well enough to obtain the capital to employ an economy of scale to bring the price down (I do believe they have the awd option in the s-series now), be that as it may, these are fine, advant garde, automobiles. My major criticism is that they perform very well, quietly and comfortabily but the price is higher than can even off-set the savings on fuel effieciency even with the tax credit and the range is pretty limited (206 miles). Also, on a road trip, where can you stop to convienantly charge the battery and how long does that take?

Having said that, if you have the coin to be on the cutting edge of technology this is a sweet car. I don't happen to have that kind of coin though.

 

[DamnYankee]

Hey no doubt it's aimed at the high end of the market and they haven't proven their design well enough to obtain the capital to employ an economy of scale to bring the price down (I do believe they have the awd option in the s-series now), be that as it may, these are fine, advant garde, automobiles. My major criticism is that they perform very well, quietly and comfortabily but the price is higher than can even off-set the savings on fuel effieciency even with the tax credit and the range is pretty limited (206 miles). Also, on a road trip, where can you stop to convienantly charge the battery and how long does that take?

Having said that, if you have the coin to be on the cutting edge of technology this is a sweet car. I don't happen to have that kind of coin though.

As far as I can tell AWD was planned for but the company failed to deliver it.

For the same coin one could get a much nice automobile with a much higher wow factor.

 

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Hey no doubt it's aimed at the high end of the market and they haven't proven their design well enough to obtain the capital to employ an economy of scale to bring the price down (I do believe they have the awd option in the s-series now), be that as it may, these are fine, advant garde, automobiles. My major criticism is that they perform very well, quietly and comfortabily but the price is higher than can even off-set the savings on fuel effieciency even with the tax credit and the range is pretty limited (206 miles). Also, on a road trip, where can you stop to convienantly charge the battery and how long does that take?

Having said that, if you have the coin to be on the cutting edge of technology this is a sweet car. I don't happen to have that kind of coin though.

If wishes were fishes................

If it hadn't been for the taxpayers, they would have been bankrupt