The top ten POOREST states are all RED states: MS, WV, AL, LA, KY, AR, SC, OK, TN, TX

[Dutch Uncle]

Which is worse?

This:

Or, this:

Seems to me, that lots of people living in trailers is preferable to a severe housing shortage and people living on the streets.

For the most part, federal tax dollars won't be going to rebuild trailer homes in any case. They will be replaced outright if badly damaged and if the owner didn't have flood insurance, it should be on them to pay for the replacement, not taxpayers. As for U-Hauls, they're all in California being packed by people leaving that state, so there aren't any to spare for use in Florida...

Seriously? Mr. Anti-Union, Anti-Government, Anti-Officer offers tents or trailer homes as the only options? LOL

Big tell, Chief.

 

[cawacko]

There is definitely urban sprawl taking place around our cities. In Oklahoma there are three main cities: OKC, Tulsa and Lawton (where I lived as a kid and near Fort Sill where I was born). Places near those cities are like you described in the DFW area. What used to be rural/forest areas are now residential areas. Fortunately for me I am surrounded by too much state and Federal land for that to happen here any time soon.

We are seeing an influx of people from Texas and California…I’d guess at a rate of about 70/30. They are buying up land around here and driving up the price of real estate. Most that come here like the first two things I mentioned…low cost of living and minimal regulation (as far as building and improving one’s house and property), but some have come here to establish some tourism/vacation service. We are in the most beautiful part of the state and lots of people vacation here if they’re into camping, hiking, lakes or anything outdoors-y. So while we aren’t having to deal with urban sprawl, we do have a bit of an increase in population around here.

And you are so right…It’s the beauty of having the choice of where you want to live. Not wholly unique to the US but there’s not many places like our country in the world, right?

You have the combination of a growing population overall, people have to live somewhere, and then the housing/cost crisis in many coastal cities forcing people elsewhere. As we've seen Texas has been a big beneficiary of the relocations, and compared to coastal costs it's housing is more affordable, but on the whole Texas is getting very expensive. So doesn't surprise me people might move from Texas to Oklahoma.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Boom! Sliced and diced.

You're a tool of the rich. Enjoy your subservience, Lig.

How's that Trickle Down Theory tinkling on ya? LOL

 

[cawacko]

There is definitely urban sprawl taking place around our cities. In Oklahoma there are three main cities: OKC, Tulsa and Lawton (where I lived as a kid and near Fort Sill where I was born). Places near those cities are like you described in the DFW area. What used to be rural/forest areas are now residential areas. Fortunately for me I am surrounded by too much state and Federal land for that to happen here any time soon.

We are seeing an influx of people from Texas and California…I’d guess at a rate of about 70/30. They are buying up land around here and driving up the price of real estate. Most that come here like the first two things I mentioned…low cost of living and minimal regulation (as far as building and improving one’s house and property), but some have come here to establish some tourism/vacation service. We are in the most beautiful part of the state and lots of people vacation here if they’re into camping, hiking, lakes or anything outdoors-y. So while we aren’t having to deal with urban sprawl, we do have a bit of an increase in population around here.

And you are so right…It’s the beauty of having the choice of where you want to live. Not wholly unique to the US but there’s not many places like our country in the world, right?

Do you have a sense of where in California those moving to Oklahoma are from? If I'm not mistaken a lot of Oklahoma people moved to the Central Valley back in the day right? I'm totally projecting here but you have coastal California people moving inland (to including the Central Valley) and wouldn't surprise me if those rising prices forced some already in the Central Valley to move to Oklahoma.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Do you have a sense of where in California those moving to Oklahoma are from? If I'm not mistaken a lot of Oklahoma people moved to the Central Valley back in the day right? I'm totally projecting here but you have coastal California people moving inland (to including the Central Valley) and wouldn't surprise me if those rising prices forced some already in the Central Valley to move to Oklahoma.

They need more trailer parks and minimum wage jobs to be profitable. LOL

 

[Joe Capitalist]

Right on cue. Sure sign of TDS.

Surrender accepted, Anonyloon

 

[leaningright]

Do you have a sense of where in California those moving to Oklahoma are from? If I'm not mistaken a lot of Oklahoma people moved to the Central Valley back in the day right? I'm totally projecting here but you have coastal California people moving inland (to including the Central Valley) and wouldn't surprise me if those rising prices forced some already in the Central Valley to move to Oklahoma.

I’ve only got to visit with a few. One of them I golf with on occasion. He retired from the LA area, his wife had ties here in Oklahoma and they just wanted to … their words, “escape the liberalism.”

The other couple I’ve met are also conservative and moved here from a rural area of CA but I’m not even sure if they are form the northern or southern part.

One thing about these two couples, they were out of the gate talking politics. I don’t know how they knew I wasn’t a liberal.

Those are the only two couples I’ve talked to personally. One man and his wife have opened a business at a nearby tourist town but I haven’t met them yet.

You are absolutely correct about the ties between OK and CA. A lot of our people moved from here to there in the 40’s and again in the 50’s when jobs were hard to come by here. Several just stayed out there long enough to be able to come back home but many settled there. I have family members who stayed 6 months out there and 6 months here for a time. They were working in the log woods in the Northern part of the state. A couple of dad’s cousins settled in Oregon and we visited them there back in 1976. I remember some great trout fishing on that tip.