The U.S. national debt exceeded $33 trillion for the first time ever

[Neoclitorus]

The President's Administration writes the budget, and then it is rewritten by Congress. There is some, small power, in getting the first crack at the budget.

only lobbyists write bills now, fucking idiot.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

The President's Administration writes the budget, and then it is rewritten by Congress. There is some, small power, in getting the first crack at the budget.

They're free to submit to Congress whatever they like.

 

[Neoclitorus]

Rich boy walt likes lobbyists writing bills. he's an anti-human / pro-corporate fascist bootsucker.

 

[Walt]

only lobbyists write bills now, fucking idiot.

In the real world, the Office of Management and Budget(OMB) writes a budget, which is a bill.

 

[Walt]

They're free to submit to Congress whatever they like.

They are required by law to submit a budget.

 

[Into the Night]

The president proposes the annual budget, and the House votes on it.. So not only can the president write the major spending bill, he is required to do so.

Trump cannot write a spending bill. The HOUSE DOES.

 

[Into the Night]

In the real world, the Office of Management and Budget(OMB) writes a budget, which is a bill.

OMB does not write any bill. It does not write the budget. The HOUSE DOES.

 

[Into the Night]

They are required by law to submit a budget.

The President does not write the budget. The HOUSE DOES.

 

[Neoclitorus]

In the real world, the Office of Management and Budget(OMB) writes a budget, which is a bill.

you're dumber than a rock.

 

[Neoclitorus]

The President does not write the budget. The HOUSE DOES.

lobbyists do.

this is why we live under de facto fascism right now.

 

[Nordberg]

lobbyists do.

this is why we live under de facto fascism right now.

Lobbyists write some bills. They do write all the bills. https://www.npr.org/sections/itsall...73620/when-lobbyists-literally-write-the-bill

 

[Neoclitorus]

Lobbyists write some bills. They do write all the bills. https://www.npr.org/sections/itsall...73620/when-lobbyists-literally-write-the-bill

yes.

they do write all the bills.

 

[Into the Night]

lobbyists do.

this is why we live under de facto fascism right now.

Lobbyists are not fascism. Redefinition fallacy.
The House writes the budget.
Fascism is not a form of government.

 

[Neoclitorus]

They are required by law to submit a budget.

you're required by law to shut your face!

 

[Into the Night]

Lobbyists write some bills. They do write all the bills. https://www.npr.org/sections/itsall...73620/when-lobbyists-literally-write-the-bill

Lobbyists do not write any bill.

 

[Neoclitorus]

Lobbyists are not fascism. Redefinition fallacy.
The House writes the budget.
Fascism is not a form of government.

corporations controlling government spending is fascism tho.

 

[Into the Night]

corporations controlling government spending is fascism tho.

Fascism is not corporations. Corporations do not control government. Controlling government spending is not fascism either. Redefinition fallacies.

 

[Neoclitorus]

Fascism is not corporations. Corporations do not control government. Controlling government spending is not fascism either. Redefinition fallacies.

corporations do control government when they fund all campaigns.

why are you so committed to lying on behalf of fascism?

 

[Neoclitorus]

lobbyists write all the bills.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

They are required by law to submit a budget.

Key word "submit". How often does a Congress run by the opposing party or one with marginal control pass it as is?