No, I'm saying the U.S. helped remove Victor Yanukovych, Ukraine's elected President, during Euromaidan back in 2014. If you'd like details, it's all in this link:



As I imagine you know, for a while, the Russian government was quite insistent that Russia's incursion into Ukraine be called a special military operation. While I think it's insistence on this term was too much, I suspect they were trying to point out that this was no regular war of conquest, but rather one designed to protect Russia's national security and protect the Ukrainians rebels living in the Donbass region of Ukraine. I've seen no author explain the situation better in the last few days leading up to Russia's incursion than former Swiss Intelligence Officer Jacques Baud. Quoting from an article he published shortly after Russia's incursion began:
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On February 17 [2022], President Joe Biden announces that Russia will attack Ukraine in the coming days. How does he know? Mystery… But since the 16th, the artillery shelling of the populations of Donbass has increased dramatically, as shown by the daily reports of OSCE observers. Naturally, neither the media, nor the European Union, nor NATO, nor any Western government reacts and intervenes. We will say later that this is Russian disinformation. In fact, it seems that the European Union and some countries purposely glossed over the massacre of the people of Donbass, knowing that it would provoke Russian intervention.

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In fact, as early as February 16, Joe Biden knows that the Ukrainians began to shell the civilian populations of Donbass, putting Vladimir Putin in front of a difficult choice: to help Donbass militarily and create an international problem or to sit idle and watch Russian speakers from the Donbass being run over.

If he decides to intervene, Vladimir Putin can invoke the international obligation of “ Responsibility To Protect ” (R2P). But he knows that whatever its nature or scale, the intervention will trigger a shower of sanctions. Therefore, whether its intervention is limited to the Donbass or whether it goes further to put pressure on the West for the status of Ukraine, the price to be paid will be the same. This is what he explains in his speech on February 21.

That day, he acceded to the request of the Duma and recognized the independence of the two Republics of Donbass and, in the process, he signed treaties of friendship and assistance with them.

The Ukrainian artillery bombardments on the populations of Donbass continued and, on February 23, the two Republics requested military aid from Russia. On the 24th, Vladimir Putin invokes Article 51 of the United Nations Charter which provides for mutual military assistance within the framework of a defensive alliance.

In order to make the Russian intervention totally illegal in the eyes of the public we deliberately obscure the fact that the war actually started on February 16th. The Ukrainian army was preparing to attack the Donbass as early as 2021, as certain Russian and European intelligence services were well aware… The lawyers will judge.

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And after we removed the elected by the people government we picked the next one, which tracks with John Helmer talking about America, almost certainly the CIA, picking an Australian government. Also know that for a long time the leaders of Europe have been mostly only there with the consent of Imperial Empire HQ Washington.

America does not have friends and allies, we have vassals.
 
And after we removed the elected by the people government we picked the next one, which tracks with John Helmer talking about America, almost certainly the CIA, picking an Australian government. Also know that for a long time the leaders of Europe have been mostly only there with the consent of Imperial Empire HQ Washington.

America does not have friends and allies, we have vassals.

Yeah, it's pretty sad. There are a few good politicians, but generally not the ones in power. I kinda liked Obama, but I know he did some dark things too. To his credit, he admits that some of it was bad, such as his listening to Hillary to bomb Libya.
 
Yeah, it's pretty sad. There are a few good politicians, but generally not the ones in power. I kinda liked Obama, but I know he did some dark things too. To his credit, he admits that some of it was bad, such as his listening to Hillary to bomb Libya.
I heard just a few days ago on my grapevine (I dont remember from whom, my brain is not good enough to remember everything, I generally remember ideas not speakers) said that Gaddafi got word to Washington sometime in his last weeks that he was willing to resign and leave libya, but Washington decided that they would rather have him dead....when he had generally cooperated completely with the Imperial Empire.

The destruction of Libya was a Zionist Bastard driven event, and they are sadists, they adore all the killing they do.
 
I got told yesterday that one of the reasons the Imperial Empire will not allow Russia to have Odessa is that they want to make sure that it is available to land large numbers of troops and supplies to invade Crimea and the rest of Russia.

If the Russians believe this then it adds to the pressure for the Russians to make sure that they get it.
 
I heard just a few days ago on my grapevine (I dont remember from whom, my brain is not good enough to remember everything, I generally remember ideas not speakers) said that Gaddafi got word to Washington sometime in his last weeks that he was willing to resign and leave libya, but Washington decided that they would rather have him dead....when he had generally cooperated completely with the Imperial Empire.

The destruction of Libya was a Zionist Bastard driven event, and they are sadists, they adore all the killing they do.

Aye. Well, at least Obama says he regretted doing that, point for him there anyway.
 
I never heard Hillary apologize for it, and she's the one who apparently persuaded Obama to do it:
My understanding is the the Europeans were the main drivers after the Zionists, driven by the lust for oil exploitation. But I am also told that it was a easy sell in Washington because Gaddafi had a long record of trying to organize the Africans with one of the main objectives being to get strong enough to stand up to the Imperial Empire, which has along record of exploiting Africa.

Also remember Obama's "Leading from behind"....he intended the support of this generally European project to be a demonstration of that.
 
Libya of course worked out catastrophically for Europe, they did not get the oil, the destruction of libya and the destabilization of Africa has a lot do do with the invasion of Europe by people who hate the West, and the Africans have been giving up on the West, deciding that partnering with China and their friends is the way forwards.
 
My understanding is the the Europeans were the main drivers after the Zionists, driven by the lust for oil exploitation. But I am also told that it was a easy sell in Washington because Gaddafi had a long record of trying to organize the Africans with one of the main objectives being to get strong enough to stand up to the Imperial Empire, which has along record of exploiting Africa.

Also remember Obama's "Leading from behind"....he intended the support of this generally European project to be a demonstration of that.

I decided to look at what Obama said about his Libyan mistake. Apparently, I was overly optimistic. It seems he didn't regret intervening, only that there was no real plan for what would follow Gadaffi:
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Asked for his worst mistake while in office, Mr Obama named the failure to plan for the aftermath of Col Gaddafi's ousting as Libyan leader, which sparked years of instability that are only just showing signs of easing.

Whether it be pride, a reluctance to show weakness or not wanting to hand opponents ammunition, such admissions do not come easily.

They tend to come out of political necessity, when a president's term is coming to an end or, safer still, when they are out of office altogether.

Even this apparent display of humility from Mr Obama, given as he considered his legacy, was qualified by his belief the intervention was "the right thing to do".

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Source:

Better than nothing, but not as good as I'd hoped.
 
I decided to look at what Obama said about his Libyan mistake. Apparently, I was overly optimistic. It seems he didn't regret intervening, only that there was no real plan for what would follow Gadaffi:
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Asked for his worst mistake while in office, Mr Obama named the failure to plan for the aftermath of Col Gaddafi's ousting as Libyan leader, which sparked years of instability that are only just showing signs of easing.

Whether it be pride, a reluctance to show weakness or not wanting to hand opponents ammunition, such admissions do not come easily.

They tend to come out of political necessity, when a president's term is coming to an end or, safer still, when they are out of office altogether.

Even this apparent display of humility from Mr Obama, given as he considered his legacy, was qualified by his belief the intervention was "the right thing to do".

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Source:

Better than nothing, but not as good as I'd hoped.
Ya, and I hear this all the time and did just again yesterday....."The Americans never think about what happens the day after" we do this or that, there is zero thinking things through.

The Chinese and the Russians are the opposite, which is one of the reasons they are going to win.
 
Ya, and I hear this all the time and did just again yesterday....."The Americans never think about what happens the day after" we do this or that, there is zero thinking things through.

The Chinese and the Russians are the opposite, which is one of the reasons they are going to win.

When it comes to Ukraine, at least, the only options I see are Russia winning or everyone losing (nuclear war). So yeah, I'm definitely hoping the Russians win.
 
When it comes to Ukraine, at least, the only options I see are Russia winning or everyone losing (nuclear war). So yeah, I'm definitely hoping the Russians win.
One of the worst military blunders in all of history.....demanding war, getting humiliated in war, killing something like 1.3 million Ukrainians so far for nothing other than greed and the hate of Russians.......with the Empire falling apart as the world comes to grips with the fact that the American empire became rancid....EVIL.
 
One of the worst military blunders in all of history.....demanding war, getting humiliated in war, killing something like 1.3 million Ukrainians so far for nothing other than greed and the hate of Russians.......with the Empire falling apart as the world comes to grips with the fact that the American empire became rancid....EVIL.

I think there's still a lot of people that believe that Russia is the 'bad guy' in Ukraine, but I also believe that more and more people are coming to see the truth.
 
I think there's still a lot of people that believe that Russia is the 'bad guy' in Ukraine, but I also believe that more and more people are coming to see the truth.
The brainwashings of the Modern Moron Americans will eventually break, but far too late to avoid justice for all of the Evil we have conducted.

The Han Insist.
 
U.S. President Donald Trump will walk away from trying to broker a Russia-Ukraine peace deal within days unless there are clear signs that a deal can be done, U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio said on Friday.

“We’re not going to continue with this endeavour for weeks and months on end. So we need to determine very quickly now, and I’m talking about a matter of days, whether or not this is doable in the next few weeks,” Rubio said in Paris after meeting European and Ukrainian leaders.


“If it’s not possible, if we’re so far apart that this is not going to happen, then I think the president is probably at a point where he’s going to say, ‘well, we’re done’.”

America listen up....if you want peace then then first step is you remove yourself from this war against Russia.

If you dont do that then all you have to offer is yap.
 
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