The War in Ukraine

Hawkeye10 said:
Scott said:
For now. The U.S. can get better, as it once was better. I still remember the time when Russia made sure that other nations didn't help out the southern states during the civil war:
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The Time the US Actually Welcomed a Russian Blockade—During the Civil War

Abraham Lincoln and Russia’s Czar Alexander II formed an unusual, but crucial, wartime alliance.
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Abraham Lincoln and the Russian Czar at the time also both freed many slaves:
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For a very long time....there must be justice.....America must pay for our many crimes....the Chinese will insist.
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I don't know about the Chinese being out for justice. What I'm pretty sure about, though, is that things in the U.S. will need to get worse before they can get better though. Part of the problem is the mindset of many Americans. They seem to think that they should get more simply because they were born in the U.S. Along these lines, many Americans blame immigrants for taking jobs they think should be theirs, while casting a blind eye to the fact that it's American employers who are hiring said immigrants, including illegal ones. Trump was certainly no exception back when he wasn't President.
 
Alex Christoforou

@AXChristoforou


The 4 Plus 1 (Macron, Starmer, Merz, Tusk + Trump) thought they had Putin boxed in by creating a photo+media spectacle in Kiev, around what was essentially the Kellogg Freeze Plan presented two weeks ago in London. The 4 Plus 1 did what they do best, media trickery. They pushed a plan that masked Minsk 3. They pushed a plan that Russia publicly turned down hundreds of times. They ignored discussing Russia's publically stated terms, June 2024 root causes. For the first time in history, the losing side in a war believed they were dictating terms, and winning. An ultimatum demanded Russia agree to a 30 day unconditional ceasefire or face Lindsey Graham bone crushing sanctions.They took instagram photos, 4 European leaders with Churchill #2, walking the streets of Kiev, confident in their geopolitical brillance. Trump fully backed their efforts via phone call, all of it was captured on video. Then Putin gave his late night speech (western media seated up front) and completely outclassed the 4 Plus 1. Putin skillfully rejected the ceasefire ultimatum, presenting his case why Ukraine was incapable of honoring any ceasefire agreement. Putin called for Russia-Ukraine direct negotiations "without any preconditions" in Istanbul, where the previous 2022 negotiations were held and a ceasefire agreed, until Zelensky and Bojo broke that deal.Putin is 10 steps ahead of the 4 Plus 1. Now we know why Russia went along with Trump's 30 day energy ceaseefire, why Russia held a one day Easter ceasefire, and why the 3 day Victory Day ceasefire was called. Putin was building his case, knowing the west and its proxy would never honor a ceasefire...one day, three days or thirty days. Russia patiently waited for the Europeans and Zelensky to pull the ceasefire ultimatum stunt we witnessed in Kiev. The big disappointment in all of this was Trump's very public, full backing of the Kellogg ceasefire plan. Trump revealed himself. Now Russia, and the world, knows exactly where everyone stands. Next week, Istanbul 2.0...ball is in your court, 4 Plus 1.
 
Scott Ritter

@RealScottRitter


If the President of the United States was caught with a bag of cocaine and related paraphernalia, every media outlet in America would be going ape shit.The President of France, Chancellor of Germany and the Prime Minister of Great Britain get caught in flagrante snorting coke, and there’s deathly silence from their respective media.It’s as if everyone understands Europe is being run by a bunch of drug addicts and coke heads.
 
Scott said:
I don't know about the Chinese being out for justice. What I'm pretty sure about, though, is that things in the U.S. will need to get worse before they can get better though. Part of the problem is the mindset of many Americans. They seem to think that they should get more simply because they were born in the U.S. Along these lines, many Americans blame immigrants for taking jobs they think should be theirs, while casting a blind eye to the fact that it's American employers who are hiring said immigrants, including illegal ones. Trump was certainly no exception back when he wasn't President.
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America is the addict that must hit bottom, the bully the must get their ass kicked.

Americans refuse to learn, at this point only BIG PAIN, the teacher of last resort, can work.
 
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