2A extremism is a real problem. As long as the NRA continues to fill politicians' coffers, we are doomed.
The “well regulated militia” is shooting kids again,
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2A extremism is a real problem. As long as the NRA continues to fill politicians' coffers, we are doomed.
How about not confiscating all firearms. How about just keeping them out of the hands of mass killers? And do civilians really need AR15's?
SmarterthanYou
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you are IGNORING the fact that that 'state assembled militia' was acquired by citizens, bringing their own weapons, or are you going to try the debunked argument that the Bill of Rights applies to individuals, except the 2nd, which refers to the people as a whole being given weapons by the government????
you are also ignoring the historical aspect of the monarchy ordering a confiscation of armaments from the populace in order to control them, yet can't explain how the founders would then create an Amendment that ONLY the government would be allowed to have arms...........It is the height of stupidity to believe that after having fought a war for independence from their government that tried to confiscate their arms.
you also continue to call them out as NRA cherry picked statements, yet they are full quotes of the founders and commentaries, ratified by the people, and refer to them as marketing techniques. Almost as if you're not intelligent enough to figure out that there are some of us who absolutely hate the NRA. I have referred to them as the Negotiate Rights Away organization.
the bottom line is that you cannot adequately overcome the amount of evidence i've provided against yours and simply tossing about 'NRA cherry picked quotes' doesn't do it.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
then you lied about reading the papers. the militia was defined by many of the founders at different points in time.
The prefatory clause is not a limiting factor in who the 'right' applies to, but is clearly a directive as to WHY the right belongs to the people
“A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves….[T]o preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.”14
13. Federal Farmer No. 23 (Lee), Https://Teachingamericanhistory.org/Document/Federal-Farmer-Xviii/
14. Federal Farmer No. 23 (Lee), Https://Teachingamericanhistory.org/Document/Federal-Farmer-Xviii/
SmarterthanYou
rebel
who is the NRA?
SmarterthanYou
rebel
how do you do that without affecting tens of millions of other citizens right to bear arms?
I would submit that, to 'preserve liberty', civilians actually need M-4s so that they can adequately fulfill their role in the militia.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
let me guess.....gang violence in a blue city that already has the strongest gun controls in the state?......
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
right now they only have to worry about the dimwits who want to use his weapon to murder someone........they would be a hell of a lot safer if they were surrounded by those who want to use their weapons to protect them......
Nope. I am not kidding. We'd be a strong, modern country with strong tradition. Why do you hate American tradition?
SmarterthanYou
rebel
I meant that question in the sense of discrediting those who blame the NRA for gun violence. The NRA is over 4 MILLION members who vote. Perhaps one of the largest lobbying organizations around because of their voter power.
We are always the ones blamed for all these shootings, yet not one of us has shot anyone (unless in self defense). I guess they have to hate someone, even if it's the law abiding.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
it's a leftist tactic of finding a boogeyman to blame that doesn't directly attack an individual, but makes everyone who is a member at fault.