The "who's your daddy (or momma)" debate.

Why submissive? Are men so weak they can't handle equality?
Only some men are weak and need a mate who is weaker.

I'm a fan of Yin-Yang; men and women are two halves of a whole. Each different, but necessary to complete the whole. The little dots in each half indicate that there's a little bit of Yin in the Yang and a little Yang in the Yin. In the case of men and women, male and female, we're all human.

FWIW, males are modified females so if anyone wants to argue that one is superior than the other, let's start from there. LOL

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Yes. Why would he make such a generalization about women?
White Nationalists are misogynists. They believe in making white males as the only Americans with full rights and everyone else secondary including their wives, daughters and mothers.

Examples:

Three Pillars of the Alt Right​

White Nationalism, Antisemitism, and Misogyny

There are three main themes the Alt Right organizes around: White nationalism, antisemitism, and misogyny, with lesser concentrations on Islamophobia, and opposition to LGBTQ people, and “Communists.” This range of targets should be no surprise; the German Nazi Party was no different in the 1930s and ‘40s. One of their first actions upon taking power was to smash the Communist and Socialist parties, as well as the trade unions; the organizations were banned and the leaders imprisoned. In addition to Jews, the Nazis murdered people who were disabled, Sinti and Roma, queer, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and certain prisoners of war. Slavs, Black folks, and others also faced repression and death to varying degrees.

Misogynist incels are just one community within a much broader landscape of male supremacy. While male supremacist hate groups and communities differ in their assessment of societal issues, they share the same misogyny, antifeminism and male entitlement. In addition to the rise of misogynist incels, in the last decade we have seen extreme anti-abortion legislation and violence and a rise in transphobic attacks. We have witnessed the popularity of misogynist ideas among teenage boys, stemming from such figures as Andrew Tate, a male supremacist social media influencer who preaches women are property and is currently facing charges for rape and human trafficking in Romania.
 
White Nationalists are misogynists. They believe in making white males as the only Americans with full rights and everyone else secondary including their wives, daughters and mothers.

Examples:

Three Pillars of the Alt Right​

White Nationalism, Antisemitism, and Misogyny

There are three main themes the Alt Right organizes around: White nationalism, antisemitism, and misogyny, with lesser concentrations on Islamophobia, and opposition to LGBTQ people, and “Communists.” This range of targets should be no surprise; the German Nazi Party was no different in the 1930s and ‘40s. One of their first actions upon taking power was to smash the Communist and Socialist parties, as well as the trade unions; the organizations were banned and the leaders imprisoned. In addition to Jews, the Nazis murdered people who were disabled, Sinti and Roma, queer, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and certain prisoners of war. Slavs, Black folks, and others also faced repression and death to varying degrees.

Misogynist incels are just one community within a much broader landscape of male supremacy. While male supremacist hate groups and communities differ in their assessment of societal issues, they share the same misogyny, antifeminism and male entitlement. In addition to the rise of misogynist incels, in the last decade we have seen extreme anti-abortion legislation and violence and a rise in transphobic attacks. We have witnessed the popularity of misogynist ideas among teenage boys, stemming from such figures as Andrew Tate, a male supremacist social media influencer who preaches women are property and is currently facing charges for rape and human trafficking in Romania.
Interesting. You pick two radical Leftist sites as your basis, Political Research Associates (aka politicalresearch.org) and the Southern Poverty Law Center. The later has been repeatedly found to libel, smear, and just make shit up on those they disagree with. They've lost repeated cases in court, and law enforcement, like the FBI finds them a non-credible source.

Neither presents anything close to a balanced or objective opinion or view. Instead, they cherry pick their facts and skew their analysis to fit a radical Leftist political position.
 
Skimming through the many topics on YouTube, I've come across an interesting trend. It seems that among a LOT of women "sex relationship" therapist/coaches there is an emphasis for the man to be more "vulnerable" in order for a relationship (short term, long term, traditional marriage) to work better.

Now the dictionary definition of "vulnerable" is being capable of being physically or emotionally wounded or open to attack or damage. Now humans wake up in the morning "vulnerable" to acts of God, disease, crime, accidents, a variety of failures and death. So, in my mind this kind of severely lowers the fear and importance of "emotional vulnerability" when it comes to a relationship ... be it rejection or ridicule.

What really struck me was one popular lady in this venue who states; "Having sex is extremely vulnerable because we are letting of control to feel pleasure." My question to that is, what "control" is lost during sex? I the "threat" debilitating humility or embarrassment regarding performance? If not, then what is the threat?

In my humble opinion, the definition of "vulnerable" has become VERY subjective in its use in the dynamic of the man/woman relations among sex/relationship coaches, therapist, analysts, etc., to be point of exaggeration. And that is more damaging and misleading than anything.

What's your take on the subject?
I fully agree with you, Tacky.
To me, it begins with the concept of "fuck."

"Fuck" is a great word to use as a basically meaningless expletive,
but a truly horrid choice of a word to describe physical intimacy.

"Fuck" implies something that you do TO somebody.
Physical intimacy, coitus, or however you wish to describe sexual congress
is something you do WITH somebody for the mutual enjoyment of both.

The physical domination of males has resulted in a Handmade Tales attitude
toward sex that make women feel more like victims than partners.

Evolution is doing its best to change that
because the species lives better with a better attitude toward sex.
The progress is certainly visible,
but its also very far from complete.

The survival of the species now requires not maximum propagation
but rather population control--this Earth cannot support eight billion people.
Sex must be regarded primarily as a physical pleasure and secondarily a procreation process.

Note the attitude of political Neanderthals on the subject, though.
They clearly illustrate their evolutionary retardation.
 
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Why submissive? Are men so weak they can't handle equality?
women want equality only when it benefits them. They don't want the responsibility that comes with being equal.

It also comes down to most women actually wanting a superior man to lead them, but them only following when they want to.

Men are annoyed by masculine women, so they prefer feminine submission.
 
Interesting. You pick two radical Leftist sites as your basis, Political Research Associates (aka politicalresearch.org) and the Southern Poverty Law Center. The later has been repeatedly found to libel, smear, and just make shit up on those they disagree with. They've lost repeated cases in court, and law enforcement, like the FBI finds them a non-credible source.

Neither presents anything close to a balanced or objective opinion or view. Instead, they cherry pick their facts and skew their analysis to fit a radical Leftist political position.
Translation: Any website that isn't Alt-Right is not right with me!

No shit, Terry. Have you been fired from your job yet for "unAmerican" activities?
 
women want equality only when it benefits them. They don't want the responsibility that comes with being equal.

It also comes down to most women actually wanting a superior man to lead them, but them only following when they want to.

Men are annoyed by masculine women, so they prefer feminine submission.
You and Gardner must have had some awful experiences with women that have made you bitter for life.
 
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