The Wisdom and Prophecy of Jimmy Carter’s ‘Malaise’ Speech

BidenPresident said:
On July 15, 1979, President Jimmy Carter emerged from days of isolation to deliver the most important and memorable address of his life. Carter had canceled vacation plans and spent more than a week cloistered at Camp David, where he met with a “steady stream of visitors” who shared their hopes and fears about a nation in distress, most immediately thanks to another in a series of energy crises.

Carter, however, discerned a deeper problem. America had a wounded heart. The president believed it suffered from a “crisis of the spirit.”
Carter’s central insight was that even if the country’s political branches could deliver peace and prosperity, they could not deliver community and belonging. Our nation depends on pre-political commitments to each other, and in the absence of those pre-political commitments, the American experiment is ultimately in jeopardy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/23/opinion/jimmy-carter-malaise-speech.html
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you people are the divisive elitist america-haters.
 
BidenPresident said:
Carter: "We were sure that ours was a nation of the ballot, not the bullet, until the murders of John Kennedy and Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr. We were taught that our armies were always invincible and our causes were always just, only to suffer the agony of Vietnam. We respected the presidency as a place of honor until the shock of Watergate."
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and now you dems are the bitch of the military industrial complex.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
If that's indeed true, then they're fucked as well.

This amount of animosity is untenable.
No nation will survive with it indefinitely.
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Nigeria is in turmoil:

Many accuse President Muhammadu Buhari, who is stepping down after two terms, of mismanaging the economy and overseeing the most insecure period in the country since the 1967-1970 civil war.

Under his watch, young middle-class Nigerians have seen their finances battered by record levels of inflation.

One in three of them cannot find a job, students have experienced incessant strikes by lecturers and many of Nigeria's finest are desperate to leave the country.

On top of this, widespread insecurity has seen armed groups kill more than 10,000 people and abduct more than 5,000 last year alone, according to the International Crisis Group.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-64719408
 
BidenPresident said:
It mostly came from Trump. We need swift action from the DOJ to prosecute the crimes of sedition.
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Here, I disagree vehemently.

Trump did not cause the polarization.
He was never that powerful.

Trump REVEALED the polarization.
He got the American troglodytes, of which there were tens of millions, to crawl out from under their rocks.

I get the impression, BP, that you may suffer from "true believerism."
You have an unwillingness, it seems, to recognize our profound deficiencies as a population.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Here, I disagree vehemently.

Trump did not cause the polarization.
He was never that powerful.

Trump REVEALED the polarization.
He got the American troglodytes, of which there were tens of millions, to crawl out from under their rocks.

I get the impression, BP, that you may suffer from "true believerism."
You have an unwillingness, it seems, to recognize our profound deficiencies as a population.
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Trump organized the violent coup attempt on Jan. 6.

I wish you would stick to facts.
 
BidenPresident said:
Nigeria is in turmoil:

Many accuse President Muhammadu Buhari, who is stepping down after two terms, of mismanaging the economy and overseeing the most insecure period in the country since the 1967-1970 civil war.

Under his watch, young middle-class Nigerians have seen their finances battered by record levels of inflation.

One in three of them cannot find a job, students have experienced incessant strikes by lecturers and many of Nigeria's finest are desperate to leave the country.

On top of this, widespread insecurity has seen armed groups kill more than 10,000 people and abduct more than 5,000 last year alone, according to the International Crisis Group.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-64719408
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Good point--and now we may be reasonable compared to African nations.
That's where we are. Congratulations, America.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
You're certainly entitled to your thoughts.
Whether they do you any good is the real question.
Perhaps time will tell, but nothing much so far, I have to assume.
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You are not articulate. You called me naive--but I was the one who told you about Nigeria, Canada, Mexico and other nations. I know a shit load more about US government and world history than you do. So quit being a fucking asshole.
 
BidenPresident said:
Carter: "We were sure that ours was a nation of the ballot, not the bullet, until the murders of John Kennedy and Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr. We were taught that our armies were always invincible and our causes were always just, only to suffer the agony of Vietnam. We respected the presidency as a place of honor until the shock of Watergate."
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A speech full of negativity and pessimism. Like a nun scolding third graders.

And then came Reagan:

" I believe that Americans in 1980 are every bit as committed to that vision of a shining city on a hill, as were those long ago settlers ... These visitors to that city on the Potomac do not come as white or black, red or yellow; they are not Jews or Christians; conservatives or liberals; or Democrats or Republicans. They are Americans awed by what has gone before, proud of what for them is still… a shining city on a hill."
"Election Eve Address "A Vision for America"". The American Presidency Project. UC Santa Barbara.
 
anonymoose said:
A speech full of negativity and pessimism. Like a nun scolding third graders.

And then came Reagan:

" I believe that Americans in 1980 are every bit as committed to that vision of a shining city on a hill, as were those long ago settlers ... These visitors to that city on the Potomac do not come as white or black, red or yellow; they are not Jews or Christians; conservatives or liberals; or Democrats or Republicans. They are Americans awed by what has gone before, proud of what for them is still… a shining city on a hill."
"Election Eve Address "A Vision for America"". The American Presidency Project. UC Santa Barbara.
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Blaming the little people for the decline of America went over poorly.
 
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