Cancel 2018. 3
<-- sched 2, MJ sched 1
that is interesting...i think the pakistan officials had to publicly condemn the action to save face and look strong to their people.
The work of a REAL LEADER shines through.....
- Thread starter NOVA
- Start date
that is interesting...i think the pakistan officials had to publicly condemn the action to save face and look strong to their people.
like i said, you have a desperate need to believe you're smarter than someone. people that are smart don't constantly run around claiming they're smarter than people. you frequently feel the desperate need to inform others that you're smarter than them. it shows you're very insecure and in reality, you are most likely one of the least "smart" posters on the board.
i feel bad that you're so insecure over your smarts. well...not that bad
I don't "constantly run around claiming" I'm smarter. That's a very dishonest thing to say, which is so surprising out of you.
Once in awhile, I bring it up with you - because I'm definitely smarter than you. Like I said, it's just a statement. I'm not really insecure about the superiority; it can be a burden when you simply don't comprehend what I'm saying...
it's simple. It's all theater. Obama runs across the ring and rebounds off the ropes. Musharaf stands in the middle of the ring and lets Obama body slam him.
Great post, Bravo, but I actually assumed this must be the case and that this "deal" was inherited by Obama. This kind of thing must pass on between administrations all the time. I posted this to duncler yesterday:
In an interview with CNN in September 2006, Bush was asked if he would order U.S. forces to go after Osama bin Laden inside Pakistan if he received good intelligence on the fugitive al Qaeda leader's location. "Absolutely," he said.
"We would take the action necessary to bring him to justice," Bush said.
His Homeland Security adviser, Fran Townsend, confirmed that position on July 17: "There's no question the president has made perfectly clear if we had actionable targets anywhere in the world, putting aside whether it was Pakistan or anyplace else, we would pursue those targets."
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
true......and if we do it again they are going to be really mad if we do it again, again.....
also, obviously true....
Bfgrn
New member
We know it's not Bush. Real leaders don't sit there and do nothing after being told:
"A second plane hit the towers. America IS UNDER ATTACK!"
After being told "America is under attack" when the second plane hit the tower on 9/11,
George W. Bush continued to read "My Pet Goat" in a Florida classroom for nearly seven minutes.
Our enemies never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.
George W. Bush
christiefan915
Catalyst
christiefan915
Catalyst
Musharraf, a former President of Pakistan, has denied the existence of any "secret deal" between him and Bush.
"There was never a verbal or written agreement on this(deal). There is no truth to the Guardian article," he said while rejecting the media report.
Musharraf also left a message on his Facebook page, denying that such an agreement had been signed.
"The accusation of my having allowed intrusion into Pakistan by US forces chasing Osama Bin Laden is absolutely baseless. Never has this subject even been discussed between myself and President Bush leave aside allowing such freedom of action that would violate our sovereignty," he said.
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/m...osama-mission-in-pak-musharraf-denies/788508/
christiefan915
Catalyst
too much of a wuss to respond to the article...great hack posts though...
Why aren't you calling him out about that fake thread title?
G
Guns Guns Guns
Guest
"There was our president, presiding over disasters in part of his making and totally on his watch, grinning with an aplomb that suggested a serious disconnect between his worldview and existing reality. Be it in his announcement that Iraq was being secured on a day when bombs ripped through that sad land or posed between his Treasury secretary and the Federal Reserve chairman to applaud the government’s bailout of a failed bank, George Bush was the only one inexplicably smiling.
Failure suits him. It is a stance he learned well while presiding over one failed Texas business deal after another, and it served him splendidly as he claimed the title of president of the United States after losing the popular, and maybe even the electoral, vote. It carried him through the most ignominious chapter of U.S. foreign policy, from the lies about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction to an unprecedented presidential defense of torture.
The totally unwarranted assurance was there this week as the once proud dollar fell into the toilet and the debacle of Iraq and Bush’s other failed Mideast policies pushed oil prices to record highs.
The Europeans, who didn’t support the U.S. imperial intervention, are doing much better, not having to pay for guarding besieged oil pipelines while U.S. taxpayers are saddled with trillions in future debt, not to mention 4,000 U.S. military deaths and 30,000 U.S. injuries in a war the administration had promised would be paid for with Iraqi oil revenues. Even in Baghdad last week, there wasn’t enough oil to keep the lights on for more than a few hours.
But the president is happy because his legacy issue, the war on terror, is intact.
No matter that this week the Pentagon was forced to release a report conducted over the last five years that concluded, after surveying 600,000 official Iraqi documents captured by U.S. forces, that there is “no smoking gun” establishing any connection between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida.
The report was so embarrassing that we taxpayers, who paid for it, were not going to be told of its existence, even though the explosive conclusions were totally declassified, until ABC News forced its posting online.
The network reported that the Pentagon had canceled plans to issue a press release or make it available by e-mail or otherwise online because, as one Pentagon official put it, the study is “too politically sensitive.”
Damned right it is—Bush squandered U.S. treasure and lives in an effort that had nothing to do with the infamous attack on America..."
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080318_bushs_legacy_of_failure/#
Failure suits him. It is a stance he learned well while presiding over one failed Texas business deal after another, and it served him splendidly as he claimed the title of president of the United States after losing the popular, and maybe even the electoral, vote. It carried him through the most ignominious chapter of U.S. foreign policy, from the lies about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction to an unprecedented presidential defense of torture.
The totally unwarranted assurance was there this week as the once proud dollar fell into the toilet and the debacle of Iraq and Bush’s other failed Mideast policies pushed oil prices to record highs.
The Europeans, who didn’t support the U.S. imperial intervention, are doing much better, not having to pay for guarding besieged oil pipelines while U.S. taxpayers are saddled with trillions in future debt, not to mention 4,000 U.S. military deaths and 30,000 U.S. injuries in a war the administration had promised would be paid for with Iraqi oil revenues. Even in Baghdad last week, there wasn’t enough oil to keep the lights on for more than a few hours.
But the president is happy because his legacy issue, the war on terror, is intact.
No matter that this week the Pentagon was forced to release a report conducted over the last five years that concluded, after surveying 600,000 official Iraqi documents captured by U.S. forces, that there is “no smoking gun” establishing any connection between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida.
The report was so embarrassing that we taxpayers, who paid for it, were not going to be told of its existence, even though the explosive conclusions were totally declassified, until ABC News forced its posting online.
The network reported that the Pentagon had canceled plans to issue a press release or make it available by e-mail or otherwise online because, as one Pentagon official put it, the study is “too politically sensitive.”
Damned right it is—Bush squandered U.S. treasure and lives in an effort that had nothing to do with the infamous attack on America..."
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080318_bushs_legacy_of_failure/#
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Of course it does. The Obama was not much more than a bystander on this deal.
G
Guns Guns Guns
Guest
Right on cue, one of Dumb Yankee's web-wives (in this case, Ice Dancer, AKA Ms Damn Stankee was on duty) comes through with a sycophantic post.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
How ironic, from an Obama worshiper.
Next we're going to hear how somebody high in Pakistan "leaked" the info to the US and they helped us all according to the "hue and cry" agreement. the HACA will be the news of the day, and Pakistan is going to be holding sand tighter, and we all know what happens when you grip sand tighter...
Cancel 2016.2
The Almighty
I am a far better skier than you... hands down... no competition.
Cancel 2016.2
The Almighty
It is truly amazing how far some people will go to shift credit away from Obama and onto Bush.
1) IF there was an agreement (my guess is there was a verbal agreement) between Bush and Musharaff.... who GIVES A FLYING FUCK? NEITHER were in office when this went down.
2) While the investigation spanned both Presidents, it was Obama who made the call. It was Obama that took the risk (and it was a big risk, to the SEALs and to his chances at a second term). Would Bush have done the same... probably. Would any other CIC have done the same? Probably. We can speculate on such things for eternity. What we do know for a FACT is that Obama DID make the call.
1) IF there was an agreement (my guess is there was a verbal agreement) between Bush and Musharaff.... who GIVES A FLYING FUCK? NEITHER were in office when this went down.
2) While the investigation spanned both Presidents, it was Obama who made the call. It was Obama that took the risk (and it was a big risk, to the SEALs and to his chances at a second term). Would Bush have done the same... probably. Would any other CIC have done the same? Probably. We can speculate on such things for eternity. What we do know for a FACT is that Obama DID make the call.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
In other words, The Obama did nothing special, just what any other president would have done.