AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
Ah yes. A human constructed deity.
When it comes to metaphysics, it's a different story.
There is no evidence/proof you'll vanish into non-existence
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Ah yes. A human constructed deity.
When it comes to metaphysics, it's a different story.
Why are you being so vague? You usually are not.
THIS THREAD is the most interesting one I've seen in JPP in years. Let's not screw it up.
Wife just asked me to go shopping. Be back in about an hour.
By the way, I am damn close to being deaf myself. My hearing aids help, but the hearing destruction is almost complete.
By the way, I am damn close to being deaf myself. My hearing aids help, but the hearing destruction is almost complete.
I agree. But when one states that they are opposed to Christianity, that is not a genuine statement of atheism.
Although I think the definition of aetheism encompasses more than just rejection of Gods.
It seemingly must include a wholesale rejection of religious belief. I don't think one can reject dieties, but accept the Eucharist, baptism, Sikh mysticism, Ramadan, or Buddhist asceticism.
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
I can only speak from the personal knowledge I have of people who are atheist, one of which I'm married to. First, they don't use that word to describe themselves, any more than they use "brunette" or "tall" to describe themselves.
They don't acknowledge that there are gods, supernatural events, souls, prayer that works, afterlives, eternal anything including heaven and hell. They are not militant about this; it's just who they are. They tend to feel uncomfortable with discussions of things of a spiritual nature, mostly because it often leads to judgmental comments from believers. So they do not seek such discussions out, unlike some Internet atheists that we've all encountered.
They're just people, nor more nor no less moral and ethical than anyone else. I fail to see why some believers feel so threatened and fearful by their very existence.
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
I'm sorry to learn of this, Frank.
Saint Guinefort
Verified User
Is there evidence that you won't?
I don't see how one can reject dieties, but accept the sacraments, prayer, Ramadan, Rosh Hashanah, or any of the mystical experiences and sacred traditions of major world religions.
I would say atheism in it's broadest sense is a rejection of religion.
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
No.
Saint Guinefort
Verified User
In every sense every religion is predicated on someone telling someone else that there's something there.
That's all fine and good because there are aspects of the universe we don't personally perceive but are real (neutrinos for instance), but the problem arises when you compare all the various religions and realize that they don't really converge on a consistent "god".
If there was some convergence maybe there would be some reason to think people are experiencing something real but lacking that convergence it is little different from people's imaginations.
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
That would be a good definition.
Saint Guinefort
Verified User
Cultural connection still has value. I am an atheist but if you drop me in any European city the very first place I'm going is a Medieval Cathedral. I love the history and the art and the amazing stuff that came out of others' beliefs. People believed enough to create these amazing things. I value them.
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
Sorry I'm tired. I'm on a tablet and I don't feel like using my yuge thumbs to type slowly. Lol. I'll be more in depth when I'm on laptop.
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
Well there are atheist Jews who do observe.
Those cathedrals are amazing, and even though I am not Catholic, I get a palpable sense of peace and holiness in a cathedral.
Lots of atheists celebrate Christmas or Hanukah as a family tradition, but I don't see how they could consider it sacred if they reject dieties and the sacred experiences of religion.
Lots of atheists celebrate Christmas or Hanukah as a family tradition or holiday, but I don't see how they could consider it sacred if they reject dieties and the sacred experiences of religion.
Probably a result of so many years of bartending in VERY LOUD bars. The hearing aids do help, but my hearing is very selective. Some areas of the spectrum are just total mumbles. There is sound (which separates me from deaf), but having it be intelligible is often a problem. Get me in a room with lots of ambient noise, and the best I can do is an occasional nod, a smile, and a fervent hope that whoever I am speaking with is not telling me that a relative was run down by a tractor trailer.
Me, too.
Give me a cathedral to visit...and I am there. Even when I visit the City (NYC) I often go to St. Patrick's. Great places to amble.
You sound like my husband. He can’t hear birds sing anymore, that is just so sad to me.
I don't know about an afterlife, but we will always be a part of the universe; our hydrogen, carbon, and nitrogen are always going to be integral parts of Earth's biosphere.