There is no reason to accept the assurances of MAGA-Neocons that the bombing of Iran was a glorious victory

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The United States Bombed Iran. What Comes Next?​


President Donald Trump has done what he swore he would not do: involve the United States in a war in the Middle East.

His supporters will tie themselves in knots (as Vice President J. D. Vance did last week) trying to jam the square peg of Trump’s promises into the round hole of his actions.

And many of them may avoid calling this “war” at all, even though that’s what Trump himself called it tonight. They will want to see it as a quick win against an obstinate regime that will eventually declare bygones and come to the table. But whether bombing Iran was a good idea or a bad idea—and it could turn out to be either, or both—it is war by any definition of the term, and something Trump had vowed he would avoid.

So what’s next? ​

Before considering the range of possibilities, it’s important to recognize how much we cannot know at this moment.

The president’s statement tonight was a farrago of contradictions: He said, for example, that the main Iranian nuclear sites were “completely and totally obliterated”—but it will take time to assess the damage, and he has no way of knowing this.

He claimed that the Iranian program has been destroyed—but added that there are still “many targets” left. He said that Iran could suffer even more in the coming days—but the White House has reportedly assured Iran through back channels that these strikes were, basically, a one-and-done, and that no further U.S. action is forthcoming.


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The United States Bombed Iran. What Comes Next?

President Trump is taking an enormous risk.
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Cypress said:

The United States Bombed Iran. What Comes Next?​


President Donald Trump has done what he swore he would not do: involve the United States in a war in the Middle East.

His supporters will tie themselves in knots (as Vice President J. D. Vance did last week) trying to jam the square peg of Trump’s promises into the round hole of his actions.

And many of them may avoid calling this “war” at all, even though that’s what Trump himself called it tonight. They will want to see it as a quick win against an obstinate regime that will eventually declare bygones and come to the table. But whether bombing Iran was a good idea or a bad idea—and it could turn out to be either, or both—it is war by any definition of the term, and something Trump had vowed he would avoid.

So what’s next? ​

Before considering the range of possibilities, it’s important to recognize how much we cannot know at this moment.

The president’s statement tonight was a farrago of contradictions: He said, for example, that the main Iranian nuclear sites were “completely and totally obliterated”—but it will take time to assess the damage, and he has no way of knowing this.

He claimed that the Iranian program has been destroyed—but added that there are still “many targets” left. He said that Iran could suffer even more in the coming days—but the White House has reportedly assured Iran through back channels that these strikes were, basically, a one-and-done, and that no further U.S. action is forthcoming.


www.theatlantic.com

The United States Bombed Iran. What Comes Next?

President Trump is taking an enormous risk.
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Who is claiming victory, asshole?
 
Cypress said:

The United States Bombed Iran. What Comes Next?​


President Donald Trump has done what he swore he would not do: involve the United States in a war in the Middle East.

His supporters will tie themselves in knots (as Vice President J. D. Vance did last week) trying to jam the square peg of Trump’s promises into the round hole of his actions.

And many of them may avoid calling this “war” at all, even though that’s what Trump himself called it tonight. They will want to see it as a quick win against an obstinate regime that will eventually declare bygones and come to the table. But whether bombing Iran was a good idea or a bad idea—and it could turn out to be either, or both—it is war by any definition of the term, and something Trump had vowed he would avoid.

So what’s next? ​

Before considering the range of possibilities, it’s important to recognize how much we cannot know at this moment.

The president’s statement tonight was a farrago of contradictions: He said, for example, that the main Iranian nuclear sites were “completely and totally obliterated”—but it will take time to assess the damage, and he has no way of knowing this.

He claimed that the Iranian program has been destroyed—but added that there are still “many targets” left. He said that Iran could suffer even more in the coming days—but the White House has reportedly assured Iran through back channels that these strikes were, basically, a one-and-done, and that no further U.S. action is forthcoming.


www.theatlantic.com

The United States Bombed Iran. What Comes Next?

President Trump is taking an enormous risk.
www.theatlantic.com www.theatlantic.com
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If O'Bama had ordered the strike, I'd have some confidence that it was the right call.
With Pigshit, we have to worry about every single fucking thing he does.

Even if it turns out that it was the right move, we know that we got super lucky.
And if it turn out to have been a very bad move, how can we be surprised?
 
Cypress said:
You and your Neocon buddies claimed the Iraq War was a massive success, when Bhagdad fell in April 2003.

There's no reason to believe your claims of victory or success.
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No. I never stated that at all. As a matter of fact I was 100% against that conflict. Not your Democrats like Clinton and such that allowed it too happen by voting for it. Dumb fuck.
 
Cypress said:

The United States Bombed Iran. What Comes Next?​


President Donald Trump has done what he swore he would not do: involve the United States in a war in the Middle East.

His supporters will tie themselves in knots (as Vice President J. D. Vance did last week) trying to jam the square peg of Trump’s promises into the round hole of his actions.

And many of them may avoid calling this “war” at all, even though that’s what Trump himself called it tonight. They will want to see it as a quick win against an obstinate regime that will eventually declare bygones and come to the table. But whether bombing Iran was a good idea or a bad idea—and it could turn out to be either, or both—it is war by any definition of the term, and something Trump had vowed he would avoid.

So what’s next? ​

Before considering the range of possibilities, it’s important to recognize how much we cannot know at this moment.

The president’s statement tonight was a farrago of contradictions: He said, for example, that the main Iranian nuclear sites were “completely and totally obliterated”—but it will take time to assess the damage, and he has no way of knowing this.

He claimed that the Iranian program has been destroyed—but added that there are still “many targets” left. He said that Iran could suffer even more in the coming days—but the White House has reportedly assured Iran through back channels that these strikes were, basically, a one-and-done, and that no further U.S. action is forthcoming.
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Cypress said:
Some of your Neocon buddies on this board claimed without evidence this operation was a stunning success.

It takes days or weeks to assess the intelligence on how effective this strike really was.
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Nobody with a brain in their heads takes anything these liars say seriously.
 
Cypress said:
Bullshit, you're a liar.

You would support anything a Republican president did, to the hilt.

Because you fucked up so badly on Iraq, there's no reason to trust you on Iran m
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No. But hey, Cypress in your mind you are always correct. A legend in your own mind. I will state once again though, the ONLY reason we went into Iraq was because of Democrats. The ones you kept in power even after that. If democrats voted against it , it could NOT have happened. You guys fuck up everything then turn around and try to blame everyone else.
 
Sailor said:
No. But hey, Cypress in your mind you are always correct. A legend in your own mind. I will state once again though, the ONLY reason we went into Iraq was because of Democrats. The ones you kept in power even after that. If democrats voted against it , it could NOT have happened. You guys fuck up everything then turn around and try to blame everyone else.
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I understand your motivation for lying about your support for invading Iraq, and trying to sweep it under the rug.
 
Cypress said:
Bullshit, you're a liar.

You would support anything a Republican president did, to the hilt.

Because you fucked up so badly on Iraq, there's no reason to trust you on Iran.
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What kind of a fucking moron are you?
I have disagreed on a few things every president I've voted for has done.
But, I have agreed on the majority of things those presidents have done
See how that works, asshole? Have you agreed with everything the
president you voted for has done? If you have, you're just the pathetic
waste of oxygen many of your far left lunatics are. Own it, fool.
 
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