There is no reversible error in the Chauvin trial

Darth Omar said:
The Chauvin conviction was tainted by Mad Maxine, Biden and the vigilante mob. And that, irreversible Alter Walter.
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Find me a trial where people are not speaking out about how they feel. It is rare. It is just not going to happen.

Get used to the fact that the conviction will stand.
 
dukkha said:
King isnt relevant anymore. sadly.
Woke dont follow his ideal of judging people by their character -Woke judges them by skin color.

confrontation is the language of ANTIFA/BLM - in case you missed the fact riots are commonplace events
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And because of woke, BLM and Antifa they are here to stay.

Ran into an old HS track teammate at the watering hole last night. Hadn’t seen him in decades so we shared a few brews. He’s a black dude and was a really good sprinter back in the day. After a bit of Springsteen Glory Days talk lol, the conversation turned to race.

We both agreed that race relations are going in reverse and they were much better even back in the 70’s. We both agreed that ‘they’ are trying to divide us though we didn’t get into who ‘they’ were. About that time I had reached my limit [he wouldn’t stop being me beers lol] so we didn’t get any farther than that.

It was a good time. At any rate, ‘they’ would be BLM, woke culture and democrats that have piggy backed off the movement and are using it for their usual perverse political purposes. And there’s no one more in your face about it than Nancy Pelosi. Instead of reprimanding Mad Maxine for her idiotic remarks she backed her.

So BLM/Antifa see a big fat green light and the rioters who piggy back off them see it too. You’re absolutely right: the riots are here to stay.

But in the end I don’t think it’s going to work. There are too many blacks that have white friends and vice a versa; too many interracial marriages and rainbow families. Like Charles Barkley said ‘the vast majority of blacks and whites are nice people’ [paraphrase] and too many of them know ‘the other side’ are nice people.

I think the attempt at dividing us is ultimately going to backfire.
 
Walt said:
Find me a trial where people are not speaking out about how they feel. It is rare. It is just not going to happen.

Get used to the fact that the conviction will stand.
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The jury came to ‘the right verdict’ like Biden was hoping for. Isn’t the ‘right verdict’ whatever the jury says it is? Do you see me or anyone else out in the streets because we disagree with the verdict?

Did the jury fear the right wing mob if they came to ‘the right verdict’? Did businesses board up out of fear the jury would come to ‘the right verdict’?

Nope, Minneapolis and many other urban areas heaved a sigh of relief after the jury followed Biden’s instructions and came to ‘the right verdict’.

There’s something wrong with that picture, Alter.
 
Darth Omar said:
And because of woke, BLM and Antifa they are here to stay.

Ran into an old HS track teammate at the watering hole last night. Hadn’t seen him in decades so we shared a few brews. He’s a black dude and was a really good sprinter back in the day. After a bit of Springsteen Glory Days talk lol, the conversation turned to race.

We both agreed that race relations are going in reverse and they were much better even back in the 70’s. We both agreed that ‘they’ are trying to divide us though we didn’t get into who ‘they’ were. About that time I had reached my limit [he wouldn’t stop being me beers lol] so we didn’t get any farther than that.

It was a good time. At any rate, ‘they’ would be BLM, woke culture and democrats that have piggy backed off the movement and are using it for their usual perverse political purposes. And there’s no one more in your face about it than Nancy Pelosi. Instead of reprimanding Mad Maxine for her idiotic remarks she backed her.

So BLM/Antifa see a big fat green light and the rioters who piggy back off them see it too. You’re absolutely right: the riots are here to stay.

But in the end I don’t think it’s going to work. There are too many blacks that have white friends and vice a versa; too many interracial marriages and rainbow families. Like Charles Barkley said ‘the vast majority of blacks and whites are nice people’ [paraphrase] and too many of them know ‘the other side’ are nice people.

I think the attempt at dividing us is ultimately going to backfire.
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white woke liberals are the problem,not blacks except the usual race hustlers like Sharpton/Biden
 
Darth Omar said:
The jury came to ‘the right verdict’ like Biden was hoping for. Isn’t the ‘right verdict’ whatever the jury says it is? Do you see me or anyone else out in the streets because we disagree with the verdict?

Did the jury fear the right wing mob if they came to ‘the right verdict’? Did businesses board up out of fear the jury would come to ‘the right verdict’?

Nope, Minneapolis and many other urban areas heaved a sigh of relief after the jury followed Biden’s instructions and came to ‘the right verdict’.

There’s something wrong with that picture, Alter.
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The jury never heard President Biden’s "hope" because they had already been sequestered.

George Floyd was murdered on camera. The murderer was found guilty.

The rest is irrelevant.
 
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]2epo]v[an said:
Bags of them, all the way down to misrepresentation. His lawyers never even made a case on his behalf. They just stood up and made a red herring shit on the courtroom floor. So what if someone healthy would have been fine. What does that have to do with the price of tea in china?
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They were terrified that the BlacKKK would come after them as well, I cannot see for life if me why that verdict can stand. Mad Max should be turfed out and impeached, Sharpton should be strung up.by the balls and Biden censured.
 
Primavera said:
They were terrified that the BlacKKK would come after them as well, I cannot see for life if me why that verdict should or could stand. Mad Max should be turfed out and impeached, Sharpton should be strung up.bynthe balls and Biden should be censured.
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Why doesn't the Lord of Cretins worry about what goes on in his own country???????????????????
 
Darth Omar said:
Isn’t the ‘right verdict’ whatever the jury says it is?
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This is where I disagree with the right wing legal experts. I believe a jury can be wrong. They believe a jury is always right, and therefore reality must be wrong.

If I see an innocent person convicted, I assume there was an error. I do not need to see that reversible error proven, just the innocents reasonably proven. Decades of right wing Supreme Court justices means my beliefs are not US legal system practice.

Darth Omar said:
There’s something wrong with that picture, Alter.
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Either you are wrong, or the jury is wrong. Your evidence comes from right wing conspiracy websites, so I tend to discount it. But maybe we are all wrong.
 
Primavera said:
They were terrified that the BlacKKK would come after them as well, I cannot see for life of me why that verdict can possibly stand. Mad Max should be turfed out and impeached, Sharpton should be strung up by the balls and Biden censured. I predicted years ago that the Dems would go fucking apeshit with identity politics and wokenessso it's proved proved.
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good lord......you idiots tried this case seven times before it ever went to the jury........now you want to run the appeal process.......
 
Walt said:
Well, I suppose time will tell. If this is reversed on appeal, then I will be proven wrong. If not, then people like Guille will keep claiming they are right, even as they are proven wrong.

Chauvin get a much better defense than most defendants get. The evidence just was not with them.



It seriously does not matter. You take your victim's health the way you find it. If a younger, healthier man would have survived, Chauvin probably should have done it to a younger, healthier man... Or better yet not done it at all.
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Even a trump appointee won't hear this case in appeals court. It's a waste of taxpayer money.

$27 million plus legal fees is enough to waste on this murderer.
 
Walt said:
You have a really bad surprise in your immediate future. It really is not reversible error that someone said people should protest if the decision works against them.
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His fallacy assumes that none of the jurors were alive during the protests last summer.
 
Walt said:
This is where I disagree with the right wing legal experts. I believe a jury can be wrong. They believe a jury is always right, and therefore reality must be wrong.

If I see an innocent person convicted, I assume there was an error. I do not need to see that reversible error proven, just the innocents reasonably proven. Decades of right wing Supreme Court justices means my beliefs are not US legal system practice.



Either you are wrong, or the jury is wrong. Your evidence comes from right wing conspiracy websites, so I tend to discount it. But maybe we are all wrong.
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My ‘evidence’ is in the toxicology report. I will always be skeptical that Chauvin’s actions would have led to the death of a healthy person and/or not one who was already showing signs of opioid induced respiratory distress prior to being restrained.

Feel free to convince me otherwise. Use facts and science.
 
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