'They don't deserve anything': GOP senator Tuberville says CA wildfire victims shouldn't get aid

[Walt]

if the damages total $300 billion

This is not a Florida hurricane. They are not going to get $300 billion.

 

[Diogenes]

Tuberville and TDAK, being intellectul equals, would be likely to feel the same way about it.

 

[Diogenes]

This is not a Florida hurricane. They are not going to get $300 billion.

In the last fiscal year, the state of California contributed approximately 568 billion dollars in federal tax revenue to the US Treasury.

In the fiscal year 2024-2025, California's state budget included nearly $96 billion in federal funds, accounting for 36% of the total state budget. Information from early 2025 suggests that California has now received $152.8 billion in federal funding for the 2024-2025 fiscal year, which is 33.9% of the state's budget.

However, the final amount will depend on federal policy changes and specific disaster relief funds.

California's fiscal year 2024-2025 started on July 1, 2024, and ends on June 30, 2025.



@Grok

 

[Walt]

In the last fiscal year, the state of California contributed approximately 568 billion dollars in federal tax revenue to the US Treasury.

That is a huge amount. We should be thankful to the state of California.

There are four things America does extremely well: technology, entertainment, finance, and agriculture. Two of those are headquartered in California, and one is headquartered in New York City. We lose both of those, and the USA starts looking like Brazil.

 

[Tobytone]

This is not a Florida hurricane. They are not going to get $300 billion.

That's a bit higher than the current estimate of 250-275 Billion. That's why I used that number.

 

[Walt]

That's a bit higher than the current estimate of 250-275 Billion. That's why I used that number.

You think there will be $250 billion in aid for the fires? Really?

 

[Tobytone]

You think there will be $250 billion in aid for the fires? Really?

That's kind of beside the point. I'm not really trying to nail down the exact number. I figured the high end of any estimate would drive home the point a little easier. Guess not.

 

[Walt]

That's kind of beside the point. I'm not really trying to nail down the exact number. I figured the high end of any estimate would drive home the point a little easier. Guess not.

Basically, blue states have been subsidizing red states for decades. Every time the blue states need a little help, we get this reaction where red states say no way. Maybe it is time we say no way to red states too?

 

[Tobytone]

Basically, blue states have been subsidizing red states for decades. Every time the blue states need a little help, we get this reaction where red states say no way. Maybe it is time we say no way to red states too?

Interesting take, I'm unaware of all the subsidies that blue states shower red states with. Examples?

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

I can certainly understand the sentiment. Let's look at some quick numbers: if the damages total $300 billion, divided among California's estimated 20 million taxpayers, that's roughly $15,000 per taxpayer. While this might seem substantial at first glance, like any significant expense, the cost would be spread out over time, making it quite manageable with fairly small sacrifices for Californians. Especially considering all of the ridiculous spending for crazy policies could easily be cut, if the public makes their voices heard. I'm not advocating for this approach, but I'm also not dismissing it outright. If California decides to rebuild with a host of environmentally-focused regulations, I would simply highlight this basic math and wish them luck.

What's with all the lines through the text?

HAHAHAHA. Listen to this loony. He says the karen bass wildfires will cost $300 billion but that's no big deal!!!

 

[Text Drivers are Killers]

Basically, blue states have been subsidizing red states for decades.

You've got it backwards. Most of the illegals are in blue states and it's the rest of the country that pays for them.

 

[archives]

Given the available information, it's unlikely that California's direct contributions to the U.S. Treasury in 2024 would singularly offset the projected costs of wildfires that year. The costs associated with wildfires including federal disaster relief, insurance payouts, and other economic impacts go beyond what the state contributes to the federal government in taxes.


@Grok

Like Florida and the Carolina’s’ with hurricane relief, oh wait, they never paid in more than the took

 

[Diogenes]

Like Florida and the Carolina’s’ with hurricane relief, oh wait, they never paid in more than the took

Is that so?

 

[archives]

Is that so?

Yes

 

[Diogenes]

Yes

Are you sure?

 

[Daylight63]

I hope the MAGA people start withholding aid for political reasons. That way when MAGA is out of power someone can return the favor.

 

[archives]

You've got it backwards. Most of the illegals are in blue states and it's the rest of the country that pays for them.

That’s bullshit, Florida and Texas lead the country in illegal populations (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...out-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/)

 

[Diogenes]

I hope the MAGA people start withholding aid for political reasons.

Do you?

That way when MAGA is out of power someone can return the favor.

The way FEMA reportedly did?

FEMA fires employee who told workers to avoid homes with Trump signs after hurricane

A Federal Emergency Management Agency worker has been fired after she directed workers helping hurricane survivors not to go to homes with yard signs supporting President-elect Donald Trump, the agency's leader said in a statement Saturday.

www.pbs.org

Fired FEMA employee alleges Helene volunteers instructed to avoid Trump homes in WNC

The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is accused of telling volunteers to avoid homes not only in Florida that had Trump signs displayed after Hurricane Milton but also allegedly homes with the same Trump signs in western North Carolina after Hurricane Helene.

www.carolinajournal.com

 

[Diogenes]

Florida and Texas lead the country in illegal populations

How do you know?

 

[Daylight63]

Do you?

Yes.