They joined what they joined.

[Jake Starkey]

That is an incomplete comparison. In general as government moves Left and becomes increasingly dictatorial, it begins to single out certain groups for persecution. The selection of such groups is based on the motives and goals of the dictatorship. Often, groups seen as outsiders to the main population of society are selected.

In Russia, the Soviets persecuted Jews, Cossacks, and other minorities. Communist China did likewise. The Imperial British, Belgian, etc., governments persecuted certain minorities too.

So, singling out fascism as the only type of dictatorship that does this behavior ignores the bigger truth that it happens in general on the Left in a dictatorship which is what the Left is all about forming as a government in whatever specific form it wants to take.

The comparison is quite acceptable, because both Trumpism and Fascism do that.

No one, except you, T. A., singled "out fascism as the only type of dictatorship that does this behavior."

Your assertions about the Left does not counter the statement.

 

[Jake Starkey]

No, the Left embraces like-minded people and groups they favor. The Right doesn't give a shit about that kind of thing. They prefer anarchy. That is, no rules and everyone gets to do whatever they please. The problem with the Right is that doesn't work with large numbers of people interacting. The problem with the Left is that a tiny minority ends up oppressing everyone else to one degree or another.

Many on that the right wants to make sure that not. everyone gets to do whatever they please."

 

[Ross Dolan]

Come on, don't be stupid. The Republican Party is Left of Center at best. The far Right are things like sovereign citizens, mountain men, and hermits.

The rest of the world considers the American left to be, at best, the center; the American far left to be reasonably left wing; the American right to be insane; the American right to be what insane people become when they become a significant minority...batshit crazy rather than just insane.

THERE IS NO WAY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY OF TODAY IS CLOSER TO THE CENTER OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM THAN THE LEFT...AND PERHAPS EVEN THE FAR LEFT. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WAS SCREWED UP BY THE LIKES OF MC CARTHY, GOLDWATER, NIXON, AND to a slightly lesser extent, REAGAN. NOW TRUMP HAS MANAGED TO OUT-DO THOSE PEOPLE. THE PEOPLE CONTINUING TO SUPPORT HIM, IN ANY WAY, ARE ANALAGOUS TO THE GERMANS AND OTHER EUROPEANS WHO CONTINUED SUPPORTING HITLER.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

The comparison is quite acceptable, because both Trumpism and Fascism do that.

No one, except you, T. A., singled "out fascism as the only type of dictatorship that does this behavior."

Your assertions about the Left does not counter the statement.

ha look.

neocon statist warmongers sucking each other off.

sexy.

 

[Phantasmal]

Okay. Fascism has a history of vilifying certain individuals and even violence against them. Jews and LGBT people being examples.

Romani’s, also called Gypsies, they were targeted as well.

 

[Cypress]

Some say soon trump's attempt, aided by approximately 35% of the population, to establish fascism in the US will be over and it will be time for the rest of us to restore our Democratic Republic.

There will be questions about what to do with his followers.

The example of Germany after WWII might be instructive.

“Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed.

That word is “Nazi.” Nobody cares about their motives anymore.

They joined what they joined. They lent their support and their moral approval. And, in so doing, they bound themselves to everything that came after. Who cares any more what particular knot they used in the binding?”
― A.R. Moxon

When the leader of the cult is gone and we must deal with his supporters, remember this:

They joined what they joined

Ten years from now, Trump supporters on this board will just deny they were ever subservient minions for Trump, just like most of them pretend now they played no part in defending George Dumbya Bush.

 

[Crepitus]

Ten years from now, Trump supporters on this board will just deny they were ever subservient minions for Trump, just like most of them pretend now they played no part in defending George Dumbya Bush.

They will believe it too. Selective memory is a survival trait for republicans.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

The rest of the world considers the American left to be, at best, the center; the American far left to be reasonably left wing; the American right to be insane; the American right to be what insane people become when they become a significant minority...batshit crazy rather than just insane.

THERE IS NO WAY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY OF TODAY IS CLOSER TO THE CENTER OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM THAN THE LEFT...AND PERHAPS EVEN THE FAR LEFT. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WAS SCREWED UP BY THE LIKES OF MC CARTHY, GOLDWATER, NIXON, AND to a slightly lesser extent, REAGAN. NOW TRUMP HAS MANAGED TO OUT-DO THOSE PEOPLE. THE PEOPLE CONTINUING TO SUPPORT HIM, IN ANY WAY, ARE ANALAGOUS TO THE GERMANS AND OTHER EUROPEANS WHO CONTINUED SUPPORTING HITLER.

This is the sort of non-empirical, unmeasurable, unspecified, liberal arts mindset that just muddies the waters with respect to the political spectrum. Rather than have a scale that uses something approaching measurable standards using standard terminology, it is meaningless dreck. Is this the sort of nonsense that is taught as political "science" in universities? If it is, it's unbelievably stupid schlock.

 

[Jake Starkey]

T. A. is gas lighting again.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

The comparison is quite acceptable, because both Trumpism and Fascism do that.

No one, except you, T. A., singled "out fascism as the only type of dictatorship that does this behavior."

Your assertions about the Left does not counter the statement.

A combination of nonsense and vague weasel words.

A Leftist government has three broad qualities: It has an overreaching and often dictatorial government. It has a top-down economy that is largely run or severely regulated by the government. It puts society and the nation ahead of individual people.

Whether that government is communist, fascist, socialist, democratic socialist, or some other variant of those, they all exhibit those three qualities.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

T. A. is gas lighting again.

You don't even know what that term means.

 

[Jake Starkey]

A combination of nonsense and vague weasel words.

A Leftist government has three broad qualities: It has an overreaching and often dictatorial government. It has a top-down economy that is largely run or severely regulated by the government. It puts society and the nation ahead of individual people.

Whether that government is communist, fascist, socialist, democratic socialist, or some other variant of those, they all exhibit those three qualities.

T. A., you are babbling again. Lay off.