This is how you do a protest

I mentioned those 2 states, because the state governments have been very invasive about guns. Usually gun grabbing starts at the state level. When the Democrats get enough federal power, they sometimes pass legislation like the AWB of the 90s.

To be fair, Republicans were guilty of supporting this nonsense in the 80s, like with the Brady Bill and the original FOPA.

Have they really been that invasive? Guns are still legal in California and Virginia, plenty of people have them.
 
Have they really been that invasive? Guns are still legal in California and Virginia, plenty of people have them.

I think I get it now. Your desire for things like racial separatism are related to your statist impulses overall. You're ok with the government placing arbitrary limits on things like gun rights. I guess that's consistent with your other beliefs, but it's a good example of where we fundamentally differ.

I'm against any restrictions on gun rights that don't have some undeniable imperative for public safety. Background checks make sense. Even limits on fully automatic weapons are ok, but when you start limiting semiauto weapons or magazine sizes and broadly define "assault weapons" to fit an agenda, then that's no longer about public safety.
 
I haven't seen them enforce said laws as strictly for any other group.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_the_United_Kingdom#Selected_cases

I'm referring to the Wilfrid Laurier incident.

Was that really so bad? She played a video which could easily be called anti-trans, she had to explain her use of the video in her lesson plan to the university's administration, and that was it. She wasn't arrested, she wasn't even fired. Fascism would be that the government arrests her for speech, not that she kinda maybe sorta might lose her job at some point but probably not.
The reason she's considered a far-right figure now is because she invited Faith Goldy, a literal Fascist, to speak at her university. Is that fair? Probably not. But in Western society, certain ideas are considered so bad, that anyone who presents them in a neutral setting is going to be seen as just as bad. Fascism is just one of those things. If she invited a speaker who wanted to legalize rape, she'd be called a rapist, even if she never raped anyone.
 
I think I get it now. Your desire for things like racial separatism are related to your statist impulses overall. You're ok with the government placing arbitrary limits on things like gun rights. I guess that's consistent with your other beliefs, but it's a good example of where we fundamentally differ.

I'm against any restrictions on gun rights that don't have some undeniable imperative for public safety. Background checks make sense. Even limits on fully automatic weapons are ok, but when you start limiting semiauto weapons or magazine sizes and broadly define "assault weapons" to fit an agenda, then that's no longer about public safety.

I don't think statist limitations should be arbitrary and I didn't say I agreed with these measures. I'm just saying that the Incels are wrong when they say the government, or, I don't know, the DEEP STATE, wants to ban guns.
I do think that the only gun you need to defend yourself is a simple handgun, so it might be a good idea to ban things like bump-stocks and large magazines.

When it comes to racial separation, I think the state should be involved as little as possible. We should not have laws that segregate people, but we also shouldn't have laws that force integration. I'd actually be something of a Libertarian if Libertarians weren't so stupid when it comes to economics.
 
What do you think would be the position of many of the gun defenders you see here if twenty thousand people of color showed up to a Capitol protest heavily armed?
 
I'd actually be something of a Libertarian if Libertarians weren't so stupid when it comes to economics.

you most certainly are not a Libertarian, nor are you even close to one............none of your positions come close to the freedom state that Libertarians are for......and what the hell are you talking about with economics?
 
What do you think would be the position of many of the gun defenders you see here if twenty thousand people of color showed up to a Capitol protest heavily armed?

i'm sure you didn't get a chance to see the group pictures because of the narrative that msnbc and cnn want to portray, but there were blacks carrying AR15s as well as women of all races carrying the same.......nobody shied away or freaked out in terror
 
i'm sure you didn't get a chance to see the group pictures because of the narrative that msnbc and cnn want to portray, but there were blacks carrying AR15s as well as women of all races carrying the same.......nobody shied away or freaked out in terror
Were there 20,000 of them?
 
What do you think would be the position of many of the gun defenders you see here if twenty thousand people of color showed up to a Capitol protest heavily armed?

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and remember this?

PHOENIX — About a dozen people carrying guns, including one with a military-style rifle, milled among protesters outside the convention center where President Barack Obama was giving a speech Monday — the latest incident in which protesters have openly displayed firearms near the president.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/32457652/...ult-rifle-attends-obama-protest/#.XijeXchKjIU
 
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you most certainly are not a Libertarian, nor are you even close to one............none of your positions come close to the freedom state that Libertarians are for......and what the hell are you talking about with economics?

I want the legalization of drugs, prostitution, and freedom of association. I'm against war. And I want most things to be left up to the states. I really agree with Libertarians on most things outside of their economics which are mostly based around jetpacks.
 
that you actually believe that is their job is not only disturbing, but brings in to question just what kind of country do you want to live in?

It's not their main job, but they do have to be able to do that in cases of emergency. If a pack of terrorists swarms a mall, the cops have to be able to take them all out. Cops have to be able to rescue hostages being held by large groups of people. There is a reason cops are allowed to do things the rest of us aren't.
 
I want the legalization of drugs, prostitution, and freedom of association. I'm against war. And I want most things to be left up to the states. I really agree with Libertarians on most things outside of their economics which are mostly based around jetpacks.

you apparently don't agree with the 2nd Amendment rights either....
 
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