SmarterthanYou
rebel
Sorry, I missed that there was a link above the quotes. Thought it was part of original.
no worries.
Sorry, I missed that there was a link above the quotes. Thought it was part of original.
And the entire hose it was attached to?
LMAO, that is quite the justification....how far is that stretch, Mars?
Again, giant fail in identifying the threat.
what I WOULD do in this situation is irrelevant. If I had done what these cops did, i'd be facing murder charges. THAT is the issue, statist.
I'll make a correction....STY mentioned the hose, not the articles.
It is still a major fail in identifying a threat, as the man was reported to have a gun and the cops should have approached from a position of cover or other means to protect themselves while assessing the situation. A gun is not a magic shield that you can use to pre-emptively protect yourself walking into a situation.
I do not fall on the side of crucifying cops that shoot kids with realistic looking guns that have the orange tips removed. However I think they failed here.
What positions of cover were available?
Could you please provide the picture or video you're using to make this conclusion?
your assumptions on what I, or anyone else, would do is irrelevant. especially considering that you are most likely coloring it with your own personal actions.Of course you don't want to discuss what you would do and it's because you want to condemn others for exactly what you would have done. The only difference is that the ones you want to condemn wear a uniform and you don't.
What positions of cover were available?
Could you please provide the picture or video you're using to make this conclusion?
I didnt say there were, I listed them as one option.
What kind of law enforcement training have you had? I was a park ranger for 13 years and trained with NYPD and the St. Louis PD. While we didnt carry, we did get firearm training. And plenty on assessing threats since we were not armed.
your assumptions on what I, or anyone else, would do is irrelevant. especially considering that you are most likely coloring it with your own personal actions.
So basically you were offering an option, without knowing if an option was available.
Did you find the park trees threatening?![]()
Welcome back, WB!They had a man who was apparently armed, and took a stance as if he were going to fire at them, and people are pissed because they didn't yell at him?
lol
since you are unable to be objective, the original article states..... "McDonnell said the officers took positions to observe Zerby, who appeared intoxicated, and believed he had a gun as described by the callers, but focused on setting up containment of the area rather than contacting him."
so, if taking up positions to observe did not include finding any sort of protective cover, then their training is seriously lacking which should definitely make the city accountable.
It was an example of an option...is this concept difficult for you to understand? Do I need to use words of one syllable to try and make it clear for you? Sorry, it's not really worth it.
And since I was a park ranger in Central Park, there were a few other threats.
are you really forgetting who it is I am? when have I EVER complained that they don't do enough? for as long as i've been on this board, i've consistently said they are too much, too powerful, and too oppressive. since you seem to have such issues remembering basic things like this, i'll naturally dismiss the rest of your position as nothing more than the police state lover that you are.In the past you've complained that they don't do enough to protect the public and containment of the area does exactly that; but now, you complain that they should have "contacted" him. By "contact", is it safe to draw the conclusion that you mean "confront".
so basically, you're saying that the cops said it was so, that should be the end of it. those civilian witnesses were likely criminal thugs and family members or cop haters and their opinions are wrong.So basically you were offering an option, without knowing if an option was available.
Did you find the park trees threatening?![]()
An option that you don't even know if it was available.
By threats, do you mean cleaning bird shit off of the statues?
are you really forgetting who it is I am? when have I EVER complained that they don't do enough? for as long as i've been on this board, i've consistently said they are too much, too powerful, and too oppressive. since you seem to have such issues remembering basic things like this, i'll naturally dismiss the rest of your position as nothing more than the police state lover that you are.
so basically, you're saying that the cops said it was so, that should be the end of it. those civilian witnesses were likely criminal thugs and family members or cop haters and their opinions are wrong.