this machine kills fascism

[Scut Farkus]

The highest virtue is to act without a sense of self
The highest kindness is to give without a condition
The highest justice is to see without a preference
When Tao is lost one must learn the rules of virtue
When virtue is lost, the rules of kindness
When kindness is lost, the rules of justice
When justice is lost, the rules of conduct
As we find our alignment with the Tao—with the rhythms of the elements within and outside of our bodies—our actions are quite naturally of the highest benefit to all who we contact. At this point, we have gone beyond the need for formal religious or secular moral precepts of any sort. We have become the embodiment of wu wei, the "Action of non-action"; as well as of wu nien, the "Thought of non-thought," and wu hsin, the "Mind of non-mind." We have realized our place within the web of inter-being, within the cosmos, and, knowing our connection to all-that-is, can offer only thoughts, words, and actions that do no harm and that are spontaneously virtuous.

https://www.learnreligions.com/wu-wei-the-action-of-non-action-3183209

 

[ParachuteAdams]

What is that?


This is my sons friend. He's not qualified. The guys a recovered user. He sleeps in the basement all day.
I have to answer for him. He makes more money than me. I'm not here to supervise the supervisor.


NOW I'M F'N CRAZY!

 

[Jack]

But ... Trump is still alive. (?)

 

[Yakuda]

But ... Trump is still alive. (?)

So are you but I'm sure it's not entirely your fault.

 

[AProudLefty]

The highest virtue is to act without a sense of self
The highest kindness is to give without a condition
The highest justice is to see without a preference
When Tao is lost one must learn the rules of virtue
When virtue is lost, the rules of kindness
When kindness is lost, the rules of justice
When justice is lost, the rules of conduct
As we find our alignment with the Tao—with the rhythms of the elements within and outside of our bodies—our actions are quite naturally of the highest benefit to all who we contact. At this point, we have gone beyond the need for formal religious or secular moral precepts of any sort. We have become the embodiment of wu wei, the "Action of non-action"; as well as of wu nien, the "Thought of non-thought," and wu hsin, the "Mind of non-mind." We have realized our place within the web of inter-being, within the cosmos, and, knowing our connection to all-that-is, can offer only thoughts, words, and actions that do no harm and that are spontaneously virtuous.

https://www.learnreligions.com/wu-wei-the-action-of-non-action-3183209

Why are you telling us this? Go and tell the GOP that.

 

[Walt]

this machine kills fascism

It was first said by Woody Guthrie, or rather he said, "This machine kills Fascists." He put that on his guitar, and wrote about it in the Communist Party's Daily Worker.

I like Guthrie a lot, but I am saddened by his refusal to admit the extreme excesses of Stalin. Stalin committed brutal genocide, which people like Pete Seeger admitted.

I am not as upset about Guthrie's support of communism in the 1930's. It made sense to a lot of people at the time. He technically never was a communist, having been turned down by the Communist Party... Let that sink in for a minute, the guy who wrote "This Land is Your Land" applied to be a member of the Communist Party, and they said no to him.

Whatever his political views, Guthrie was a great musician, and really wanted what is best for humanity.

 

[Lightbringer]

It was first said by Woody Guthrie, or rather he said, "This machine kills Fascists." He put that on his guitar, and wrote about it in the Communist Party's Daily Worker.

I like Guthrie a lot, but I am saddened by his refusal to admit the extreme excesses of Stalin. Stalin committed brutal genocide, which people like Pete Seeger admitted.

I am not as upset about Guthrie's support of communism in the 1930's. It made sense to a lot of people at the time. He technically never was a communist, having been turned down by the Communist Party... Let that sink in for a minute, the guy who wrote "This Land is Your Land" applied to be a member of the Communist Party, and they said no to him.

Whatever his political views, Guthrie was a great musician, and really wanted what is best for humanity.

You could just get to the point. But no.

 

[Walt]

You could just get to the point. But no.

"This machine kills Fascists" is a communist slogan.

 

[Lightbringer]

"This machine kills Fascists" is a communist slogan.

No kidding. There was more to it though. What was that shit about Guthrie?

Why do you fuckwits always try to make shit more complicated than it needs to be?

 

[Walt]

What was that shit about Guthrie?

Guthrie wrote the slogan.

Why do you fuckwits always try to make shit more complicated than it needs to be?

You find a few sentences in a forum post complicated? Life only gets more complicated from there.

 

[Lightbringer]

Guthrie wrote the slogan.



You find a few sentences in a forum post complicated? Life only gets more complicated from there.

No, I think you're an idiot.

 

[Scut Farkus]

It was first said by Woody Guthrie, or rather he said, "This machine kills Fascists." He put that on his guitar, and wrote about it in the Communist Party's Daily Worker.

I like Guthrie a lot, but I am saddened by his refusal to admit the extreme excesses of Stalin. Stalin committed brutal genocide, which people like Pete Seeger admitted.

I am not as upset about Guthrie's support of communism in the 1930's. It made sense to a lot of people at the time. He technically never was a communist, having been turned down by the Communist Party... Let that sink in for a minute, the guy who wrote "This Land is Your Land" applied to be a member of the Communist Party, and they said no to him.

Whatever his political views, Guthrie was a great musician, and really wanted what is best for humanity.

I love the guy. a real hero.

 

[Walt]

I love the guy. a real hero.

Guthrie came from a humble background, and created great poetry/music. He never forgot where he came from. He made mistakes with who he supported, but always did everything for the right reasons.

I agree, I love Woody Guthrie too.

"Old Man Trump" is a song with lyrics written by American folk singer-songwriter Woody Guthrie. The song describes the racist housing practices and discriminatory rental policies of his landlord, Fred Trump. The lyrics were written in 1954 but it was never recorded by Guthrie. In January 2016, Will Kaufman, a Guthrie scholar and professor of American literature and culture at the University of Central Lancashire, unearthed the handwritten lyrics while conducting research at the Woody Guthrie Archives in Tulsa, Oklahoma.[1]

In partnership with the Guthrie archives and the Guthrie family, Woody's words have been put to music by California rock band U.S. Elevator, fronted by Johnny Irion, who is married to Sarah Lee Guthrie, Woody's granddaughter.[2] "Old Man Trump" has also been recorded by riot folk singer Ryan Harvey with Ani DiFranco and guitarist Tom Morello, as well as by independent artist/musician Chip Godwin.[3]

Background
In December 1950, Woody Guthrie signed a lease at the Beach Haven apartment complex owned and operated by Fred Trump in Gravesend, Brooklyn. There are several handwritten drafts of the lyrics with titles such as "Beach Haven Race Hate" and "Beach Haven Ain't My Home". In its lyrics, Guthrie expresses his dissatisfaction with Trump and the "color line" he had drawn in his Brooklyn neighborhood:[4][5]

I suppose
Old Man Trump knows
Just how much
Racial Hate
He stirred up
In the bloodpot of human hearts
When he drawed
That color line
Here at his Beach Haven family project[6]

The Federal Housing Administration, which fronted the bill for some of Trump's housing projects, had a set of guidelines for avoiding integration which Trump enthusiastically embraced.[7]

"He thought that Fred Trump was one who stirs up racial hate, and implicitly profits from it," the scholar, Will Kaufman, said. In Guthrie's notebooks he wrote about wanting to put an end to the segregation with "a face of every bright color laffing and joshing in these old darkly weeperish empty shadowed windows."[1]

I welcome you here to live. I welcome you and your man both here to Beach Haven to love in any ways you please and to have some kind of a decent place to get pregnant in and to have your kids raised up in. I'm yelling out my own welcome to you.[1]

An unreleased variant of Guthrie's "Ain't Got No Home" similarly protests Fred Trump's segregation at Beach Haven.[8]

 

[Scut Farkus]

Guthrie came from a humble background, and created great poetry/music. He never forgot where he came from. He made mistakes with who he supported, but always did everything for the right reasons.

I agree, I love Woody Guthrie too.

he probably wouldn't see an amazon sponsored populism as legitimate.

 

[Walt]

he probably wouldn't see an amazon sponsored populism as legitimate.

Maybe I am just projecting, but it almost seems like Guthrie would have been a proponent of open source. Amazon is a sponsor of open source.

Guthrie's copyright statement in the 1930's almost sounds like a proto-open source statement, "This song is Copyrighted in U.S., under Seal of Copyright #154085, for a period of 28 years, and anybody caught singin' it without our permission, will be mighty good friends of ourn, cause we don't give a dern. Publish it. Write it. Sing it. Swing to it. Yodel it. We wrote it, that's all we wanted to do."

 

[Scut Farkus]

Maybe I am just projecting, but it almost seems like Guthrie would have been a proponent of open source. Amazon is a sponsor of open source.

Guthrie's copyright statement in the 1930's almost sounds like a proto-open source statement, "This song is Copyrighted in U.S., under Seal of Copyright #154085, for a period of 28 years, and anybody caught singin' it without our permission, will be mighty good friends of ourn, cause we don't give a dern. Publish it. Write it. Sing it. Swing to it. Yodel it. We wrote it, that's all we wanted to do."

amazon sponsors open source?

maybe they'll do something with that between servicing their c.I.a. contracts.

you fucking putz.

do you see how retarded you've become?

 

[Iolo/Penderyn]

It was first said by Woody Guthrie, or rather he said, "This machine kills Fascists." He put that on his guitar, and wrote about it in the Communist Party's Daily Worker.

I like Guthrie a lot, but I am saddened by his refusal to admit the extreme excesses of Stalin. Stalin committed brutal genocide, which people like Pete Seeger admitted.

I am not as upset about Guthrie's support of communism in the 1930's. It made sense to a lot of people at the time. He technically never was a communist, having been turned down by the Communist Party... Let that sink in for a minute, the guy who wrote "This Land is Your Land" applied to be a member of the Communist Party, and they said no to him.

Whatever his political views, Guthrie was a great musician, and really wanted what is best for humanity.

The last thing capitalist parties like the Stalinists wanted was socialists or communists as members. What they wanted was obedience. The buggers conned some wonderful people back then, fair play - I remember how baffled they all were when it all came apart in Hungary. Then again - look at Hungary NOW!

 

[Walt]

amazon sponsors open source?

Amazon, Google, even Microsoft... Not so much Apple... But most of the high tech companies sponsor open source, and almost all depend on open source. Apple uses BSD Unix, but gives almost nothing back. The internet world is almost entirely run on the LAMP stack, which is pretty much all open source.

There is a weird ultra copyright/hippie no copyright culture going on in high tech, which is hard to explain.

maybe they'll do something with that between servicing their c.I.a. contracts.

AWS, Amazon's cloud services, runs almost entirely open source software. Any CIA contracts would use open source software.

you fucking putz. do you see how retarded you've become?

You may argue that I am a putz, but I definitely know more about Amazon's software and business models than you do. You clearly know nothing about software.

 

[Scut Farkus]

Amazon, Google, even Microsoft... Not so much Apple... But most of the high tech companies sponsor open source, and almost all depend on open source. Apple uses BSD Unix, but gives almost nothing back. The internet world is almost entirely run on the LAMP stack, which is pretty much all open source.

There is a weird ultra copyright/hippie no copyright culture going on in high tech, which is hard to explain.



AWS, Amazon's cloud services, runs almost entirely open source software. Any CIA contracts would use open source software. You may argue that I am a putz, but I definitely know more about Amazon's software and business models than you do.

so tech tyranny is fine because open source?

you're a fucking moron, completely off the point.

 

[Walt]

so tech tyranny is fine because open source? you're a fucking moron, completely off the point.

I question whether we have "tech tyranny." I have seen a bit of real tyranny, and read about more, and I would not define Amazon as tyranny. They are overly successful to the point of monopolistic, and they do not think of their blue collar workers, but that is not quite tyranny.

They also over enforce copyrights and patents, sometimes. Other times, they are very open source. They, like much of the major tech companies, are an odd mixture of extreme intellectual property proponents and hippie intellectual property communalists. Guthrie would have agreed with the intellectual property communalist part of Amazon.