This " thing" our country has been experiencing is MUCH more spiritual then it ever was political.

Stone

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My hope is that more people understand that than not. This is where it originates,.....it has ALWAYS been with us and will only continue to increase.

John 15:18- 25
"18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. 19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. 20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. 21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name’s sake, because they know not him that sent me. 22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin. 23 He that hateth me hateth my Father also. 24 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father. 25 But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause."




We must have the strength to not let it harden our hearts as impossible as that may seem at times. We have to be better or we too can be "given up and given over " to a debased mind. Don't allow that to happen ,....pray for moral strength.
 
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Politics is supposed to payoff in better government. You build a road to go somewhere that is needed, and everyone is better off. The alt right cannot do that. They build roads to nowhere. So instead, they say it is "more spiritual", and those roads to nowhere are "shrines" to trump.

Most of the American people just want things to work.
 
Walt said:
Politics is supposed to payoff in better government. You build a road to go somewhere that is needed, and everyone is better off. The alt right cannot do that. They build roads to nowhere. So instead, they say it is "more spiritual", and those roads to nowhere are "shrines" to trump.

Most of the American people just want things to work.
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How can things work if you don't have faith?
 
Walt said:
Politics is supposed to payoff in better government. You build a road to go somewhere that is needed, and everyone is better off. The alt right cannot do that. They build roads to nowhere. So instead, they say it is "more spiritual", and those roads to nowhere are "shrines" to trump.

Most of the American people just want things to work.
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Woooosh.
 
Walt said:
I just want roads that work. You want a forced religious conversion for all Americans. We are talking on completely different wavelengths. It is amazing how I get this, and you do not.
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Then go to another thread. You see my intentions,...it is YOU who chose to take it in a different direction. If you want to talk about something else then go start a different thread. Very simple.
 
Stone said:
Then go to another thread. You see my intentions,...it is YOU who chose to take it in a different direction. If you want to talk about something else then go start a different thread. Very simple.
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Why should I go to another thread to disagree with you. You say you want government that is "spiritual", and I say I just want government that works in the temporal world.
 
Walt said:
Why should I go to another thread to disagree with you. You say you want government that is "spiritual", and I say I just want government that works in the temporal world.
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No, I never said I wanted a government that was spiritual,...LIAR. Going to ignore you actually because of your love for derailing and muddying the waters with your nonsense.
 
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How can things work if you don't have faith?
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Oddly enough, things work better when you do not have faith. If you just have faith things will work out, and do not bother doing any work, or even checking how things are working, most times things fail.

The US Constitution has checks and balances, because the Founding Fathers did not have faith that people like trump would take care of everything.
 
Walt said:
Oddly enough, things work better when you do not have faith. If you just have faith things will work out, and do not bother doing any work, or even checking how things are working, most times things fail.

The US Constitution has checks and balances, because the Founding Fathers did not have faith that people like trump would take care of everything.
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I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree... Having faith means you work even harder.. And you never give up....That's what you're missing here.... Maybe that's why you have to have six jobs...;)
 
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Politics is supposed to payoff in better government. You build a road to go somewhere that is needed, and everyone is better off. The alt right cannot do that.
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Trump is now openly taking credit for infrastructure projects funded by Joe Biden's landmark infrastructure bill.
 
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