Thompson bombed ?

Well why then? You don't seem to be a big fan of Gore's, what do you find about him that is preferable to Hillary?

1) Part of it is because I don't want to see Bush/Clinton/Clinton/Bush/Bush/Clinton

2) Part of it is personal as my mother worked with the Hitlary in AR and found her to be quite dishonest and a faux "leader".

3) You would be hard pressed to find one policy of Hillarys that I agree with. Gore is not much better in my opinion, but because of the first two, I would give him the edge.

4) If it were possible for Bill to run again, I would oppose him for the same reason in number one. It has nothing to do with gender.
 
1) Part of it is because I don't want to see Bush/Clinton/Clinton/Bush/Bush/Clinton

2) Part of it is personal as my mother worked with the Hitlary in AR and found her to be quite dishonest and a faux "leader".

3) You would be hard pressed to find one policy of Hillarys that I agree with. Gore is not much better in my opinion, but because of the first two, I would give him the edge.

4) If it were possible for Bill to run again, I would oppose him for the same reason in number one. It has nothing to do with gender.

What type of work did your mother do with Senator Clinton?
 
1) Part of it is because I don't want to see Bush/Clinton/Clinton/Bush/Bush/Clinton

2) Part of it is personal as my mother worked with the Hitlary in AR and found her to be quite dishonest and a faux "leader".

3) You would be hard pressed to find one policy of Hillarys that I agree with. Gore is not much better in my opinion, but because of the first two, I would give him the edge.

4) If it were possible for Bill to run again, I would oppose him for the same reason in number one. It has nothing to do with gender.

Ok.

I think that no matter what happens this election, we haven't seen the last of the bushs or the clintons though.
 
Ok.

I think that no matter what happens this election, we haven't seen the last of the bushs or the clintons though.
Oh gods....

I am so sick of the whole elite family thing. Then the hypocrisy to convince ourselves that it is okay when it is from one or the other party... From 300 Million people we can find no other people than these two families to run the nation?
 
I think Jenna Bush and Chelsea Clinton should go to Massachusettes and get married, then we can have president Chelsea Bush. Then, after that, their miraculously conceived lesbian daughter can be the first 8 year old president.
 
If Gore gets in, it will be in the next couple of weeks. IF he wins the Noble Peace Prize next week, it might propell a "grass roots", Draft Gore movement, which I am sure Gore will have set up. Then Gore would jump in and reluctantly accept the responsability of running.

I doubt it will happen, if Democrats were unhappy with the choices, like Republicans seem to be, he would have a better chance.

I figure if gore runs it will be for 2012.
whomever gets in this time is going to be blamed with all the stuff that is primed to topple.
 
What type of work did your mother do with Senator Clinton?

What is now the Hospice care program in AR. My mother was one of many women who worked to get the program up and running in the early 80's in Conway and Little Rock. It subsequently died out in the mid 80's and then a new group started it back up in the early 90's.
 
John ellis bush will probably have a go in 2012.
Might be another gore/Bush battle.

Is that Jeb?

Yes, that is what I think too. I figure if a dem gets in this time, and the Iraqi mess (by then bush will have bombed Iran, widening the war, and there is more than one reason they are going to widen this war) does not get cleared up, that is four years of right wing venom machine revisionist history, priming the country for a "return to big balls" in 2012, and then Jeb comes swinging in. A distinct possibility.
 
Is that Jeb?

Yes, that is what I think too. I figure if a dem gets in this time, and the Iraqi mess (by then bush will have bombed Iran, widening the war, and there is more than one reason they are going to widen this war) does not get cleared up, that is four years of right wing venom machine revisionist history, priming the country for a "return to big balls" in 2012, and then Jeb comes swinging in. A distinct possibility.

God I hope the above is not even remotely close to what will happen.

While the Dems certainly gave Bush that ability to go after the Revolutionary Guard as terrorists... I still cannot see how he bombs Iran prior to leaving office.
 
Agree on your assessment of Thompson. Rudy is definitely not coming off well.

I think you are correct on Romney being the best candidate for the Reps at this time... which is very sad.

We are going to get stuck with Hitlary. Not good.
I think you underestimate the selling power of a Hillary presidency on the right. I think that as splintered at the Right might SEEM at this point Hillary will be the Gorilla Glue that puts the Republican party back together. My bet is Hillary can't win her husbands home state. She will win New York unless Guilie is the candidate then I think those electoral votes are a toss up. She will probably win Illinois and Ohio (if they have fixed their probs) but I think even California is a toss up with Guilie as the candidate. California likes their moderate looking Repubs. Hillary has a very good chance of giving us another 4 years of a republican presidency.
 
I think you underestimate the selling power of a Hillary presidency on the right. I think that as splintered at the Right might SEEM at this point Hillary will be the Gorilla Glue that puts the Republican party back together. My bet is Hillary can't win her husbands home state. She will win New York unless Guilie is the candidate then I think those electoral votes are a toss up. She will probably win Illinois and Ohio (if they have fixed their probs) but I think even California is a toss up with Guilie as the candidate. California likes their moderate looking Repubs. Hillary has a very good chance of giving us another 4 years of a republican presidency.

I agree that Hillary is their best bet, and a lot of this is true, but...NY won't go for Rudy, he is not as popular here as people think, and Hillary won state-wide relection in a landslide here.
 
God I hope the above is not even remotely close to what will happen.

While the Dems certainly gave Bush that ability to go after the Revolutionary Guard as terrorists... I still cannot see how he bombs Iran prior to leaving office.

I hope not, but I have no faith that he won't.

I can see my scenerio playing out, and I think that Jeb and also, Mr. not a politician, Petraus, could be players in 2012.
 
President Edwards would be my preference.
That would be great. A guy that made millions who know wants to do all he can to limit how many other people can make millions by pushing programs that will pressure the American tax payer and stunt economic growth. He is just too much of a socialist for me.
 
Is that Jeb?

Yes, that is what I think too. I figure if a dem gets in this time, and the Iraqi mess (by then bush will have bombed Iran, widening the war, and there is more than one reason they are going to widen this war) does not get cleared up, that is four years of right wing venom machine revisionist history, priming the country for a "return to big balls" in 2012, and then Jeb comes swinging in. A distinct possibility.
Yep Jeb, most do not even know his real name.
 
by 2012 Jeb mght be saying, see if my brother had not invaded Iraq we would not have enough oil....
and the sad part is , by then it might sell....
 
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I think you underestimate the selling power of a Hillary presidency on the right. I think that as splintered at the Right might SEEM at this point Hillary will be the Gorilla Glue that puts the Republican party back together. My bet is Hillary can't win her husbands home state. She will win New York unless Guilie is the candidate then I think those electoral votes are a toss up. She will probably win Illinois and Ohio (if they have fixed their probs) but I think even California is a toss up with Guilie as the candidate. California likes their moderate looking Repubs. Hillary has a very good chance of giving us another 4 years of a republican presidency.

I don't really disagree with the aboves potential. But barring something dramatic happening that shifts a lot of the negativity away from being an "R", I just don't see a Rep winning right now... even if it is Rudy.
 
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