Time to end the "trans" delusion

WinterBorn said:
Hahahahaha!! So tell me what I misread or read incorrectly. I mean, these vague innuendos are fun, but specifics are better.
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Asked and answered already, pop pop.

But since your advanced gae might be a barrier to recollection, I'll let Grok explain.

When someone uses "us" instead of "me," they are generally implying:

  1. Inclusivity - They might be including the listener or others in the conversation or action, suggesting a shared experience, agreement, or responsibility. For example, "This affects us" instead of "This affects me" implies that the issue is not personal but collective.
  2. Collective Identity - It can indicate a sense of group identity, whether it's a team, family, community, or another form of collective. Using "us" strengthens the bond by showing solidarity or unity. For instance, "We did it" rather than "I did it" emphasizes teamwork.
  3. Generalization - Sometimes, "us" is used to speak for a larger group or to make a statement more relatable or less confrontational. It can be a way to avoid seeming self-centered or to generalize an experience or opinion.

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Diogenes said:
Asked and answered already, pop pop.

But since your advanced gae might be a barrier to recollection, I'll let Grok explain.

When someone uses "us" instead of "me," they are generally implying:

  1. Inclusivity - They might be including the listener or others in the conversation or action, suggesting a shared experience, agreement, or responsibility. For example, "This affects us" instead of "This affects me" implies that the issue is not personal but collective.
  2. Collective Identity - It can indicate a sense of group identity, whether it's a team, family, community, or another form of collective. Using "us" strengthens the bond by showing solidarity or unity. For instance, "We did it" rather than "I did it" emphasizes teamwork.
  3. Generalization - Sometimes, "us" is used to speak for a larger group or to make a statement more relatable or less confrontational. It can be a way to avoid seeming self-centered or to generalize an experience or opinion.

Roll, Tide!
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"When someone uses "us" instead of "me," they are generally implying:"

Generally that is true. But, in this case, my use of "us" is valid. Unless you were planning to send your reply to me in a private message.
 
WinterBorn said:
Generally that is true. But, in this case, my use of "us" is valid.
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So you say, paw paw.

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Say, @WinterBorn, do you prefer any of these to "paw paw" and "pop pop"?

In the Southern United States, some other common terms for a grandfather include:

  • Papaw
  • Grampaw
  • Pappy
  • Poppy Gee (short for Grandpa)
  • Granny (sometimes used for grandfathers as well, especially in certain regions)

These terms can vary by family tradition or regional dialect, but these are some of the most commonly used in the South.


@Grok


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Diogenes said:
Say, @WinterBorn, do you prefer any of these to "paw paw" and "pop pop"?

In the Southern United States, some other common terms for a grandfather include:

  • Papaw
  • Grampaw
  • Pappy
  • Poppy Gee (short for Grandpa)
  • Granny (sometimes used for grandfathers as well, especially in certain regions)

These terms can vary by family tradition or regional dialect, but these are some of the most commonly used in the South.


@Grok


Roll, Tide!
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The choice is yours. You are the one who needs to try and insult or demean people. I prefer to ignore such nonsense.
 
Diogenes said:
Say, @WinterBorn, do you prefer any of these to "paw paw" and "pop pop"?

In the Southern United States, some other common terms for a grandfather include:

  • Papaw
  • Grampaw
  • Pappy
  • Poppy Gee (short for Grandpa)
  • Granny (sometimes used for grandfathers as well, especially in certain regions)

These terms can vary by family tradition or regional dialect, but these are some of the most commonly used in the South.


@Grok


Roll, Tide!
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As for my preference, it would be WinterBorn or WB.
 
WinterBorn said:
And if I were saying I did not agree, I would not use a plural either.

But when I am asking you to post something on the forum, it is not just us.
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By using the collective, @WinterBorn, it is obvious that you misunderstood the accepted usage of pronouns.

The terms "I," "me," "we," and "us" are pronouns used to refer to oneself or a group, but they have different grammatical functions:

I vs. Me
  • I is a subjective pronoun. It is used when the speaker is the subject of the sentence, performing the action:
    • Example: "I am going to the store."
  • Me is an objective pronoun. It is used when the speaker is the object of the sentence, receiving the action or being acted upon:
    • Example: "He gave the book to me."

We vs. Us
  • We is a subjective pronoun used when referring to a group including oneself as the subject of the sentence:
    • Example: "We are friends."
  • Us is an objective pronoun used when referring to a group including oneself as the object of the sentence:
    • Example: "She showed the photo to us."

Key Points to Remember:
  • Subject vs. Object:
    • Use "I" and "we" when you or your group are doing something (subject).
    • Use "me" and "us" when something is being done to you or your group (object).
  • Prepositions: Pronouns following prepositions like "to," "for," "with," etc., will generally be in the objective case ("me," "us"):
    • Example: "This is for me." / "This is for us."
  • Compound Subjects and Objects: When using these pronouns with other nouns or pronouns, the same rules apply:
    • Example: "John and I went to the park." (Subject)
    • Example: "The teacher gave the homework to John and me." (Object)

Understanding when to use each pronoun correctly can help in making sentences grammatically correct and clear in meaning.

@Grok


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WinterBorn said:
Staying on topic would be nice.
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Let us do so, @WinterBorn.

What is a delusion?

A delusion is a fixed, false belief that is not based on reality and is held despite clear evidence to the contrary. Here are some key characteristics of delusions:
  1. Firmly Held: The belief is held with conviction, and the individual does not consider it to be false or open to debate.
  2. Not Amenable to Change: Even in the face of overwhelming evidence, the person does not change their belief.
  3. Cultural Norms: Delusions are considered pathological when they are not part of the person's cultural or religious background. Beliefs that align with cultural or religious norms are not delusions unless they are held in an extreme or idiosyncratic way that significantly deviates from those norms.
  4. Impact on Functioning: Delusions often interfere with a person's ability to function in daily life, work, or relationships.
Delusions are most commonly associated with psychiatric disorders like schizophrenia, but they can also occur in other conditions like bipolar disorder, severe depression with psychotic features, or as a result of substance use or certain medical conditions.

Understanding delusions involves recognizing that from the perspective of the individual experiencing them, these beliefs feel very real and convincing, which can pose challenges in treatment and communication.
  • Affirming delusions might reinforce the belief, making it harder to treat or change over time. There's a risk that the individual might interpret the affirmation as validation of their belief.
  • Hindering Recovery: Long-term affirmation without any attempt to gently challenge or explore these beliefs might hinder psychological treatment or recovery because it does not engage with the cognitive aspects of therapy needed to address delusions.
  • Ethical and Therapeutic Concerns: Psychologically, there's an ethical duty to help individuals live in reality as much as possible. Affirmation without therapeutic intervention might not be in the best interest of the person's overall mental health.
Best Practices:
  • Validation, Not Affirmation: Instead of affirming the content of the delusion, one can validate the person's feelings or the distress caused by their beliefs. For example, "I can see that you're really worried about this," rather than "Yes, I believe that too."
  • Gentle Reality Testing: Over time, and with established trust, clinicians might use techniques like gentle reality testing where they slowly introduce elements of reality in a way that doesn't directly confront or challenge the delusion but rather opens up a dialogue.
  • Therapeutic Techniques: Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), particularly CBT for psychosis, has specific strategies for dealing with delusions, which involve gradually exploring and challenging these beliefs in a supportive environment.
  • Individualized Approach: Treatment should be tailored to the individual. For some, a more direct approach might be beneficial, while for others, a more indirect, supportive strategy might be necessary.

In conclusion, while affirming delusions might have some short-term benefits in reducing immediate distress or building rapport, the long-term therapeutic goal should be towards understanding, reducing, or managing delusions in a way that promotes mental health and well-being. This requires a nuanced approach, professional judgment, and often, a multidisciplinary team effort.



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