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Bush Urges U.N. to Spread Freedom

Sep 25, 11:09 AM (ET)

By BEN FELLER

UNITED NATIONS (AP) - President Bush announced new sanctions Tuesday against the military dictatorship in Myanmar, accusing it of imposing "a 19-year reign of fear" that denies basic freedoms of speech, assembly and worship.

"Americans are outraged by the situation in Burma," the president said in an address to the U.N. General Assembly. Now called Myanmar, the Asian country also is known as Burma.

Bush also urged other nations to support the struggle for democracy in Afghanistan, Iraq and Lebanon.

"The people of Lebanon and Afghanistan and Iraq have asked for our help, and every civilized nation has a responsibility to stand with them," Bush said.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070925/D8RSIA800.html
 
There was a big protest there today (at the UN), with coffins and everything. I wanted to go so badly, but I had a meeting this morning that I could not miss, no matter what.
 
So you guys are cool with the military junta?

They're beating the monks who are protesting. Clinton would have done the same thing.
 
Warren said:
So you guys are cool with the military junta?

They're beating the monks who are protesting. Clinton would have done the same thing.
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we will have the opportunity soon to see. Hillary will be elected and she is a hawk. see how anti war everyone is then.
 
Chapdog said:
we will have the opportunity soon to see. Hillary will be elected and she is a hawk. see how anti war everyone is then.
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I'll be just as anti-war, thanks. I know Hillary has been a hawk, and have expressed plenty of unhappiness w/ her candidacy as a result.

I'm not alone. Hillary has real problems w/ the anti-war left in general.
 
Onceler said:
I'll be just as anti-war, thanks. I know Hillary has been a hawk, and have expressed plenty of unhappiness w/ her candidacy as a result.

I'm not alone. Hillary has real problems w/ the anti-war left in general.
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It will be interesting to see how vocal the anti-war left will be when she is President (or if they have any effect on her policies).
 
cawacko said:
It will be interesting to see how vocal the anti-war left will be when she is President (or if they have any effect on her policies).
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They will be even more vocal, because the media will actually bother to cover us.

And she will be more affected by us than Bush is.
 
cawacko said:
It will be interesting to see how vocal the anti-war left will be when she is President (or if they have any effect on her policies).
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If it's up to Hillary, we'll be in Iraq for years to come. However, she will be EXTREMELY hard-pressed to veto timeline legislation, as Bush has done. As long as the Dems control Congress, the war will end.

I'll be interested to see the Bushies then heap blame on the Democrats for the Iraq fiasco, as the official rewriting of history will begin in earnest...
 
Darla said:
They will be even more vocal, because the media will actually bother to cover us.

And she will be more affected by us than Bush is.
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Playing devil's advocate (or just being political) we know she is more hawkish than other Democrat candidates yet she will get the anti-war vote in 2008. Do you think she will think she won't get those same votes in 2012?
 
cawacko said:
Playing devil's advocate (or just being political) we know she is more hawkish than other Democrat candidates yet she will get the anti-war vote in 2008. Do you think she will think she won't get those same votes in 2012?
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Well, she won't get all of the anti-war vote. There are plenty who are going to go third party if she is the nominee. I think that if she were to ignore the anti-war base of her party, which now reflects mainstream and majority American opinion, there would very likely be a third party candidacy in 2012 that would be formidable. Or, a primary challenge from someone like Gore, a serious challenge.

And the media will be salivating over "the fringe left" (that's what they call us no matter how many Americans agree with us, doesn't matter, that's your liberal press in action, pissing on liberals) hounding Hillary, so any protests are going to get real coverage, and not buried. That right there will snowball the whole peace movement. One of the biggest problems now the media doesn't cover us. I was in a march in NYC, over 300 thousand people marched, right in the backyard of Satan itself, the New York Times. Not one word. Not one word. It did not happen.

So if Hillary does get elected, you are going to see some shit start to happen. But, I'd rather get things rolling by nominating someone who is going to get us out without all of that happening.
 
cawacko said:
It will be interesting to see how vocal the anti-war left will be when she is President (or if they have any effect on her policies).
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Look no further than historical analogy. The most vehement anti-war protestors against democrat Lyndon Johnson were liberals, progressives, and leftists. I don't think many republicans actively protested the vietnam war.
 
Cypress said:
Look no further than historical analogy. The most vehement anti-war protestors against democrat Lyndon Johnson were liberals, progressives, and leftists. I don't think many republicans actively protested the vietnam war.
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The left pretty much owns the street. Most of the people on the right just don't make their feelings known in that way.
 
Damocles said:
The left pretty much owns the street. Most of the people on the right just don't make their feelings known in that way.
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Right! Unless it's in front of an abortion clinic.

Besides, who on the right wanted to protest the Vietnam war? Most of them were busy dodging it so they could live to play tough guys 35 years later.
 
Damocles said:
The left pretty much owns the street. Most of the people on the right just don't make their feelings known in that way.
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The rightwing can mobilize huge numbers, for anti-abortion rallies. They'd rather save embryos, than 18 year old kids in an evil war.

:pke:
 
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