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Because I would rather see my own genetics and family continued instead of shouldering someone else's problem.
To anyone who plans on having kids someday
- Thread starter KingRaw!
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Because I would rather see my own genetics and family continued instead of shouldering someone else's problem.
KingRaw!
I dare you to stop us GL
http://www.gametalk.com/talk/peace/86830968.htm
About halfway down the page.....
"The first link shows me and Tek. That is the menu from the place in my hands. If you look you will see the clock reads 5:25
The second is a picture of the same clock showing 4:01.
The second link was taken when Tek showed up and we sat down for a cold beer. The second pic was taken before we left.
Tell us again that you were there, raw? Come on, you can tell that lie one more time."
About halfway down the page.....
"The first link shows me and Tek. That is the menu from the place in my hands. If you look you will see the clock reads 5:25
The second is a picture of the same clock showing 4:01.
The second link was taken when Tek showed up and we sat down for a cold beer. The second pic was taken before we left.
Tell us again that you were there, raw? Come on, you can tell that lie one more time."
LOL. Ijust read that thread he posted.
King, you guys are a bunch of little girlz. "wah......we showed up.....here's the receipt"....."wah......no you didn't.......you photoshopped that receipt".
Just don't bring that bullshit to this board.
Socrtease
Verified User
I am going to be real honest here and people are probably going to hate me for it but here goes.
In the US people typically don't give their children up for adoption. Those that do typically (I am going to make some generalizations here it does not apply to ALL adoptions) give up their children for adoption fall into two catagories. The first is the high school or college girl that had a relationship with an otherwise good guy and neither of them are at a place where they can take care of the child but they don't want to abort. This first group contacts expensive adoption agencies, or wealthy childless couples and works out a payment arrangement for their child.
The second group contains those that have had the state terminate parental rights. The mothers and the fathers have personality and behavioral disorders, many of which are passed on to the child. For a significant number of these kids there is also in utero exposure to drugs and alcohol and subsequent contact with drugs after birth. (We just dealt with a case where a three year old had 4 times the detectable levels of meth in his hair). The treatment foster care system is FULL of children with a plethora of behavior and personality disorders. We have another client who has adopted two brothers, one 5 and the other 3. Both were exposed to meth and mom drank while she was pregnant. 3 months ago the adoptive parents walked in on the 5 year old strangling the 3 year old to the point of unconsciousness. I am not saying that people should not adopt these children. But if you have kids of your own, you are IMO placing your children in greater danger of harm than they otherwise would have been exposed to.
My brother's ex sisters in law both adopted a boy. One of them is now 24 and just got out of prison for some minor drug stuff but is otherwise a good kid. The other boy is a former client of mine. I got him a really good deal on a minor explosives charge where he blew up mail boxes at his aunts rental properties. Had he finished his probation without incident he would have had no criminal record. However, he beat the shit out of his girl friend and went to prison on that charge and the remainder of the explosives charge. While in prison he was investigated in connection with an ex-girl friend of his that was murdered in her apartment. He got out and is now awaiting trial for sexually molesting my brothers daughter. In both cases, these boys were adopted by well educated people. Both sisters have MBA's and their husbands are both professionals. They make in excess of $600K per year per family and come form a seriously fundamentalist christian family with a very strong grasp on moral behavior. With ALL the positives they had they BOTH still were involved in criminal behavior that put them in contact with the criminal justice system and the state department of corrections. One of them is on his third serious charge and will spend the better part of the next two decades behind bars.
Adoptions in America are fraught with hidden problems. If you choose to adopt you have my admiration. I have 3 children all under the age of 10 and I am not going to expose them to the hit and miss of an adopted sibling.
In the US people typically don't give their children up for adoption. Those that do typically (I am going to make some generalizations here it does not apply to ALL adoptions) give up their children for adoption fall into two catagories. The first is the high school or college girl that had a relationship with an otherwise good guy and neither of them are at a place where they can take care of the child but they don't want to abort. This first group contacts expensive adoption agencies, or wealthy childless couples and works out a payment arrangement for their child.
The second group contains those that have had the state terminate parental rights. The mothers and the fathers have personality and behavioral disorders, many of which are passed on to the child. For a significant number of these kids there is also in utero exposure to drugs and alcohol and subsequent contact with drugs after birth. (We just dealt with a case where a three year old had 4 times the detectable levels of meth in his hair). The treatment foster care system is FULL of children with a plethora of behavior and personality disorders. We have another client who has adopted two brothers, one 5 and the other 3. Both were exposed to meth and mom drank while she was pregnant. 3 months ago the adoptive parents walked in on the 5 year old strangling the 3 year old to the point of unconsciousness. I am not saying that people should not adopt these children. But if you have kids of your own, you are IMO placing your children in greater danger of harm than they otherwise would have been exposed to.
My brother's ex sisters in law both adopted a boy. One of them is now 24 and just got out of prison for some minor drug stuff but is otherwise a good kid. The other boy is a former client of mine. I got him a really good deal on a minor explosives charge where he blew up mail boxes at his aunts rental properties. Had he finished his probation without incident he would have had no criminal record. However, he beat the shit out of his girl friend and went to prison on that charge and the remainder of the explosives charge. While in prison he was investigated in connection with an ex-girl friend of his that was murdered in her apartment. He got out and is now awaiting trial for sexually molesting my brothers daughter. In both cases, these boys were adopted by well educated people. Both sisters have MBA's and their husbands are both professionals. They make in excess of $600K per year per family and come form a seriously fundamentalist christian family with a very strong grasp on moral behavior. With ALL the positives they had they BOTH still were involved in criminal behavior that put them in contact with the criminal justice system and the state department of corrections. One of them is on his third serious charge and will spend the better part of the next two decades behind bars.
Adoptions in America are fraught with hidden problems. If you choose to adopt you have my admiration. I have 3 children all under the age of 10 and I am not going to expose them to the hit and miss of an adopted sibling.
evince
Truthmatters
Someday we may understand how to treat these conditions but fetal alcohol and drug exposeur can be devastating. The drug and alcohol use of their parents are often self medicating attempts for underlying metal health problems.
I wish people would realise just how comprehensive mental health coverage of Americans could effect these problems. Many of these children would not be born to these conditions if we treated their parents for their conditions. Instead America leaves them to fill drug riddled slums to procreate children with encreasingly worse mental and physical conditions. They then reek havoc on society and themselfs and fill our prisons.
A couple of generations of comprehensive medical coverage would greatly reduce this situation and benifit all Americans.
I wish people would realise just how comprehensive mental health coverage of Americans could effect these problems. Many of these children would not be born to these conditions if we treated their parents for their conditions. Instead America leaves them to fill drug riddled slums to procreate children with encreasingly worse mental and physical conditions. They then reek havoc on society and themselfs and fill our prisons.
A couple of generations of comprehensive medical coverage would greatly reduce this situation and benifit all Americans.
Said1
New member
Where the above children receiving any type of treatment for post-traumatic stress and seperation anxiety (to name a few things?) prior to the incidents you described?
My grandparents adopted a little girl (they basically had custody of her off and on since birth) who was sexually and physically abuse by her mother and several boyfriends. She was in therapy for years, starting a 4 yrs old. I'd say it made all the difference in the world.
Were they adopted as infants?
KingRaw!
I dare you to stop us GL
Don't worry Lady T, I won't bring the bs here.
But since you looked at it, I'll tell you the facts.
"WinterBorn" showed up over an hour late to our first fight when he claimed to live 10 miles from the fight scene.
"Tek Jansen" and "WinterBorn" showed a pic of them at our second fight with no proof of date whatsoever. Then "WinterBorn" was caught saying the wrong date about when "they" showed up. I have no proof of me showing up because I worry about people pressing charges against me. "WinterBorn" and "Masse" threatened to sue me over my accusations of "WinterBorn" being a child predator.
Why the " you ask? I recently found out that Tek Jansen is about 10 other usernames including WinterBorn. That's why I left Gametalk!
But since you looked at it, I'll tell you the facts.
"WinterBorn" showed up over an hour late to our first fight when he claimed to live 10 miles from the fight scene.
"Tek Jansen" and "WinterBorn" showed a pic of them at our second fight with no proof of date whatsoever. Then "WinterBorn" was caught saying the wrong date about when "they" showed up. I have no proof of me showing up because I worry about people pressing charges against me. "WinterBorn" and "Masse" threatened to sue me over my accusations of "WinterBorn" being a child predator.
Why the " you ask? I recently found out that Tek Jansen is about 10 other usernames including WinterBorn. That's why I left Gametalk!
Wow. I hadn't really considered that. I'm sorry to hear about your family's misfortunes. It sounds like they were all good people trying to do something nice in the world. If kharma exists I hope it comes back to them ten fold!
I adopted because I had taken on that responsibility beforehand. I was the Godfather, and listed as the next in line to care for their kids...
It was a terrible time for us and especially for her. I still just feel a sadness in her that I don't think I can ever heal...
Bless her little kind soul. She chose a hard row to hoe for this lifetime and I hope I can make it a little better.
It was a terrible time for us and especially for her. I still just feel a sadness in her that I don't think I can ever heal...
Bless her little kind soul. She chose a hard row to hoe for this lifetime and I hope I can make it a little better.