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T. A. Gardner said:
No, it's not you retard. Try reading Mahan's The Influence of Sea Power upon History for starters. The Red Sea and Gulf of Hormuz are for all intents identical in terms of applied sea power. They are both narrow straits and shipping choke points.

Iran and the Houthi are using essentially identical weapons systems with identical training and tactics. That means the methods Iran has for closing the Strait of Hormuz are identical to that the Houthi have used to try and close the Red Sea.

The Houti have failed to do so even as they've hit a number of merchant ships.

Iran's "Boghammer" small craft are pretty much useless against warships or even patrolling aircraft. Against unarmed, unescorted merchant ships they might work, but if the US et al., are in the strait with warships and aircraft, the Iranians are getting smashed again. Tiny 'torpedo boats' of some sort and stuff of a similar bent have never had much luck in naval warfare.

I can go back to Jefferson's use of small gunboats with poorly trained crews, much the same thing in 1810, to guard the US coast with similar uselessness. PT / MBT boats in WW 1 and 2 proved marginal, at best, in actual naval combat. In 1944, the USN at the battle of Surigao Strait in the Philippines attacked IJN forces including 2 battleships, a cruiser, and four destroyers with over 100 PT boats that launched close to 400 torpedoes. Those boats scored ZERO torpedo hits. NONE, NADA, ZIP POINT SHIT.

Germany, late in WW 2, and Japan throughout WW 2, used small midget submarines to try and influence the naval war. Outside a few successes against anchored ships in harbor, these had no impact on the war for near 100% losses. They don't fucking work!

I can dredge up plenty of other examples of the uselessness of little cockleshells in naval warfare, but I've made my point. Iran hasn't got shit to fight a naval war with. If the US et al., get serious about keeping the Strait of Hormuz open, it'll stay open.
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:lolup:

Bloviating asshole thinks he's a military strategist and tactics expert because he was a low level enlisted toilet swabber.

You don't know shit, ya ridiculous pudgy fish fucker. 🖕🏼
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Why would that happen? Over a dozen tankers and a multitude of other ships have been damaged or sunk by the Houthi in the Red Sea. That didn't cause prices of anything to "skyrocket."
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Most of the supertankers cannot even pass through the Suez Canal, with those going to East and South Asia not needing to go into the Red Sea. Those going to Europe can, and often are required to go around the Cape. There are easy backup plans.

There is no obvious backup for the Strait of Hormuz. There are some pipes through Saudi Arabia, but nowhere near the capacity needed, and they are super vulnerable.

T. A. Gardner said:
The Red Sea and Gulf of Hormuz are for all intents identical in terms of applied sea power.
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The Red Sea is a short cut for some of the oil. The Gulf of Hormuz is nonexistent; are you talking about the Persian Gulf, or the Strait of Hormuz? The Strait of Hormuz is absolutely essential to deliver a large portion of the world's oil supply.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
No, it's not you retard. Try reading Mahan's The Influence of Sea Power upon History for starters. The Red Sea and Gulf of Hormuz are for all intents identical in terms of applied sea power. They are both narrow straits and shipping choke points.

Iran and the Houthi are using essentially identical weapons systems with identical training and tactics. That means the methods Iran has for closing the Strait of Hormuz are identical to that the Houthi have used to try and close the Red Sea.

The Houti have failed to do so even as they've hit a number of merchant ships.

Iran's "Boghammer" small craft are pretty much useless against warships or even patrolling aircraft. Against unarmed, unescorted merchant ships they might work, but if the US et al., are in the strait with warships and aircraft, the Iranians are getting smashed again. Tiny 'torpedo boats' of some sort and stuff of a similar bent have never had much luck in naval warfare.

I can go back to Jefferson's use of small gunboats with poorly trained crews, much the same thing in 1810, to guard the US coast with similar uselessness. PT / MBT boats in WW 1 and 2 proved marginal, at best, in actual naval combat. In 1944, the USN at the battle of Surigao Strait in the Philippines attacked IJN forces including 2 battleships, a cruiser, and four destroyers with over 100 PT boats that launched close to 400 torpedoes. Those boats scored ZERO torpedo hits. NONE, NADA, ZIP POINT SHIT.

Germany, late in WW 2, and Japan throughout WW 2, used small midget submarines to try and influence the naval war. Outside a few successes against anchored ships in harbor, these had no impact on the war for near 100% losses. They don't fucking work!

I can dredge up plenty of other examples of the uselessness of little cockleshells in naval warfare, but I've made my point. Iran hasn't got shit to fight a naval war with. If the US et al., get serious about keeping the Strait of Hormuz open, it'll stay open.
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T. A. is an uninformed MAGA TDS neo-con.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Why would that happen? Over a dozen tankers and a multitude of other ships have been damaged or sunk by the Houthi in the Red Sea. That didn't cause prices of anything to "skyrocket."

en.wikipedia.org

Houthi attacks on commercial vessels - Wikipedia

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See the above list. What you are speculating on is fantasy on your part. Iran isn't going to do any better than the Houthi because Iran is using the exact same weapons systems they give the Houthi.

Back to the Russia collusion thing now, hum? Maybe tomorrow you can tell us how the Iran wan is linked to Jan 6 and the Epstein files.
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I wouldn’t say the potential of one militia to close down shipping quite compares to that of Iran’s capacity
 
archives said:
I wouldn’t say the potential of one militia to close down shipping quite compares to that of Iran’s capacity
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Actually, it does. Same weapons, same tactics, same training for the crews. Iran is bluffing on its mine capability as can be seen in the response to them claiming they're doing it.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Actually, it does. Same weapons, same tactics, same training for the crews. Iran is bluffing on its mine capability as can be seen in the response to them claiming they're doing it.
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Except Iran has been planning and preparing for such for decades, and shipping has halted except for Iranian tankers (https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-ea...g-more-oil-today-than-before-the-war-ede3cd91), unmatched by any “success” the Houthi attained, so I’d say the facts prove otherwise
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Actually, it does. Same weapons, same tactics, same training for the crews. Iran is bluffing on its mine capability as can be seen in the response to them claiming they're doing it.
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I bet they are having a hard time crewing the mining boats. Probably as hard as finding a Caribbean drug boat crew.
 
FastLane said:
I bet they are having a hard time crewing the mining boats. Probably as hard as finding a Caribbean drug boat crew.
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The number of mines a 'go-fast' can carry would be extremely limited. I'd say 2 to 4 would be about it. Sea mines, whatever type are big and heavy. They have to be to have the "umpf" to damage or sink a ship.
 
Actually, it does not. T. A. is simply a TDS-afflicted MAGA who does not think well.

archives said:
I wouldn’t say the potential of one militia to close down shipping quite compares to that of Iran’s capacity
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T. A. Gardner: Actually, it does. Same weapons, same tactics, same training for the crews. Iran is bluffing on its mine capability as can be seen in the response to them claiming they're doing it.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Well, so far they've done a shit job of preparation...
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Disagree, has not oil stopped? Trey were never going to prepare for the bombing, never had that potential, their only real weapon was to disrupt the economy via oil to the point that we cease bombing, it has become a game of who can endure the pain the longest

It is amazing to think that Trump probably didn’t see this, he has surrounded himself with so many ass kissers than no one apparently told him this wasn’t going to be a short confrontation, a bomb the hell out of them and they’ll surrender
 
archives said:
Disagree, has not oil stopped?
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No, anchovies.
archives said:
Trey were never going to prepare for the bombing, never had that potential, their only real weapon was to disrupt the economy via oil to the point that we cease bombing, it has become a game of who can endure the pain the longest
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What pain, anchovies?
archives said:
It is amazing to think that Trump probably didn’t see this, he has surrounded himself with so many ass kissers than no one apparently told him this wasn’t going to be a short confrontation, a bomb the hell out of them and they’ll surrender
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Why would Iran shut off it's access to sea?
 
gfm7175 said:
Were you under a rock in 2022? Or even 2021 - early 2024...

Gas is currently $3.099 in my neck of the woods, which is still 30 cents CHEAPER than the LOWEST that it ever was during 4/5's of the Autopen's term.
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It's just the usual cherry picking, ignoring all other historical data. In many cases, they are simply making up the numbers out of thick air.
 
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