Trump admin rounds up 5,500 criminal migrants in less than a week — here are some of the worst

Nomad said:
And you're 100% certain of that..... how? Because trump said so?
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The likelihood of millions of undocumented immigrants self-deporting is influenced by a complex interplay of factors including policy enforcement, economic conditions, legal status, community ties, and personal circumstances. Here's an analysis based on available data and insights:

  • Historical Precedence: There are historical instances where economic downturns, stringent enforcement, or changes in policy have led to some level of self-deportation. For example, during economic recessions or when local or state laws become more stringent against undocumented immigrants, there have been reports of increased voluntary departures. However, these movements have generally been on a smaller scale than what would be considered "millions."

  • Policy Influence: The rhetoric and policy proposals from political figures like former President Trump, who promised mass deportations, have indeed influenced some individuals to leave. This is often described as "self-deportation" due to the fear of being detained or deported. Posts on X and news articles indicate that some undocumented immigrants have considered or undertaken self-deportation in response to such threats or changes in policy, though exact numbers are speculative and hard to quantify.
  • Economic Factors: Economic conditions play a significant role. If jobs become scarce or if the economic benefits of staying in the U.S. diminish, some undocumented immigrants might choose to return to their home countries or move to other locations where opportunities might be better. However, many have established lives, families, and businesses in the U.S., which could mitigate this effect.
  • Community Ties: Many undocumented immigrants have deep roots in the U.S., including children who might be U.S. citizens, property, or businesses, making self-deportation less likely for a significant portion of the population. The social and personal costs of leaving these ties behind are substantial.
  • Enforcement Actions: The actual enforcement of immigration laws, including workplace raids, increased border security, and local law enforcement cooperation with ICE, can increase the likelihood of self-deportation due to heightened fear of apprehension. Yet, the scale of enforcement required to push millions to leave would be unprecedented and logistically challenging.
  • Public Sentiment: There's a sentiment that some undocumented immigrants might self-deport due to policy changes or enforcement threats, but these are often anecdotal or based on observed trends rather than concrete data. The diversity of opinions on such platforms reflects a wide range of expectations, from those believing in significant self-deportation to others seeing it as unlikely or logistically impossible.

In conclusion, while there might be an increase in self-deportation due to fear, policy shifts, or economic factors, the notion that "millions" would self-deport seems unlikely based on historical patterns and the complexities of human migration and settlement. The impact would likely be more localized or sector-specific rather than a mass movement of millions. However, the true extent of self-deportation would depend heavily on the actual policies implemented and the socio-economic context at the time.


@Grok
 
Diogenes said:
In conclusion, while there might be an increase in self-deportation due to fear, policy shifts, or economic factors, the notion that "millions" would self-deport seems unlikely based on historical patterns and the complexities of human migration and settlement. The impact would likely be more localized or sector-specific rather than a mass movement of millions. However, the true extent of self-deportation would depend heavily on the actual policies implemented and the socio-economic context at the time.


@Grok
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Well, how about that.

You actually taking my side and backing me up on something.

Will miracles never cease?
 
Nomad said:
Yes, you did. Inadvertently I guess.
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Keep guessing.

In 1954, 750 Border Patrol agents deported 1.1 million illegals in the space of a few months.


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Today, we have at least 21,000 Border Patrol agents, and far more advanced technology.

Mass deportations are reasonable, necessary and possible.

We've done it before, and we could do it again!
 
Diogenes said:
Keep guessing.

In 1954, 750 Border Patrol agents deported 1.1 million illegals in the space of a few months.

Today, we have at least 21,000 Border Patrol agents, and far more advanced technology.

Mass deportations are reasonable, necessary and possible.

We've done it before, and we could do it again!
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Keep in mind also, that in 1954 there weren't as many legal protections in place keep government agents in line.

Also, the immigrants have access to a lot of advanced technology to make it harder to find them as well.
 
Diogenes said:
Keep guessing.

In 1954, 750 Border Patrol agents deported 1.1 million illegals in the space of a few months.


GhRu5yHacAAteP2



Today, we have at least 21,000 Border Patrol agents, and far more advanced technology.

Mass deportations are reasonable, necessary and possible.

We've done it before, and we could do it again!
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Is it?
 
volsrock1 said:
Is it?
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Deportations have been climbing for decades.

B. Hussein Obama actually deported a record number of people: more than 3 million. (Although interior removals declined relative to the overall illegal population).

He was nicknamed the "deporter in chief" by far left critics.


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