Trump administration gives separated parents choice

USFREEDOM911 said:
How is it cruel?

Are they asking for asylum from Mexico and did they enter the US legally, to make their requests?
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I have to wonder how many times the ignorant fools like this one have to be taught the simple realities of lie. Under American Law, and International Law, Mexico is not considered a "safe country" thus those seeking refuge need not apply there. Is that really too hard for your one cell brain to understand?

Then we have American Asylum law. Fools like you never v=bother to read the law, they just keep their heads stuck up someones ass, in this case Trumps, and ignore the law:

https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-asylum/asylum/obtaining-asylum-united-states

Obtaining Asylum in the United States

The two ways of obtaining asylum in the United States are through the affirmative process and defensive process.
Affirmative Asylum Processing With USCIS

To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status.

https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-asylum/asylum

Asylum

Every year people come to the United States seeking protection because they have suffered persecution or fear that they will suffer persecution due to:

Race
Religion
Nationality
Membership in a particular social group
Political opinion


And finally for the uninformed. If you had actually been following events, the refugees are being stopped at the border preventing them from legally entering. Thus many have gone around the stations thus entering the country illegally (even though the law says they can do so) and are having their children taken.

But you see, stupid people like you don't really care. As long as those brown skinned people are kept out that is all you care about. The law, the Constitution, all of that is just more trash to you.
 
Irish said:
Yeah but the dick suck left, pretended not to care in 2014 under OBAMA, but now are outraged. Why does anyone believe their faux outrage?
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And then there are cocksuckers like you who wouldn't know the truth, or tell it, if it would upset your king. Obama did not order children to be removed from their parents, and the consequences of his immigration action under ATEP were unforeseen. Your cocksucking coward POS you call President is deliberately separating families, and using the children as pawns.
 
Stretch said:
Evidently there are some mothers who are more than willing to separate themselves from their children...for profit.

Texas mother arrested for allegedly selling young children
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...-selling-young-children/ar-AAzAhKz?ocid=ientp

A Texas mother has been arrested for allegedly selling her young children.

Esmeralda Garza, 29, was arrested by Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) officials on Friday after she allegedly sold her 7-year-old boy to two men, KRIS-TV reported. Garza was also in the process of selling two other children – a 2-year-old girl and a 3-year-old girl – as well, officials said.

The arrest occurred after DPS officers executed a drug search warrant, according to KIII-TV.

Garza, of Corpus Christi, was charged with the sale or purchase of a child, which is a third-degree felony. She is being held on a $100,000 bond at the Nueces County Jail, KRIS reported.

WOMAN PIMPED CHILDREN YOUNGER THAN 10 FOR DRUGS, CASH, POLICE SAY

An additional male and female were also arrested in the raid, although it is unclear if they were involved in the alleged drug activity or the sale of children.

Police expect to file additional charges, KRIS reported.
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And then others just kill them, however, they are American citizens, so who on the right gives a shit:

https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/07/health/filicide-parents-killing-kids-stats-trnd/index.html
 
"If you aren't a liberal when you're young, you have no heart. If you aren't a conservative when you're older, you have no brain."
 
Old Trapper said:
I have to wonder how many times the ignorant fools like this one have to be taught the simple realities of lie. Under American Law, and International Law, Mexico is not considered a "safe country" thus those seeking refuge need not apply there. Is that really too hard for your one cell brain to understand?

Then we have American Asylum law. Fools like you never v=bother to read the law, they just keep their heads stuck up someones ass, in this case Trumps, and ignore the law:

https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-asylum/asylum/obtaining-asylum-united-states

Obtaining Asylum in the United States

The two ways of obtaining asylum in the United States are through the affirmative process and defensive process.
Affirmative Asylum Processing With USCIS

To obtain asylum through the affirmative asylum process you must be physically present in the United States. You may apply for asylum status regardless of how you arrived in the United States or your current immigration status.

https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-asylum/asylum

Asylum

Every year people come to the United States seeking protection because they have suffered persecution or fear that they will suffer persecution due to:

Race
Religion
Nationality
Membership in a particular social group
Political opinion


And finally for the uninformed. If you had actually been following events, the refugees are being stopped at the border preventing them from legally entering. Thus many have gone around the stations thus entering the country illegally (even though the law says they can do so) and are having their children taken.

But you see, stupid people like you don't really care. As long as those brown skinned people are kept out that is all you care about. The law, the Constitution, all of that is just more trash to you.
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Care to show some support for your assertion, regarding Mexico?
 
Old Trapper said:
And then there are cocksuckers like you who wouldn't know the truth, or tell it, if it would upset your king. Obama did not order children to be removed from their parents, and the consequences of his immigration action under ATEP were unforeseen. Your cocksucking coward POS you call President is deliberately separating families, and using the children as pawns.
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So they were removed, by what...…………………………….an accident??
 
I say we offer these illegal spix the following

1) $5,000 to just leave
2) $50,000 to leav and take a liberal and a NeverTrumper with them
 
Stretch said:
"If you aren't a liberal when you're young, you have no heart. If you aren't a conservative when you're older, you have no brain."
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[FONT=&quot]Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. Robert A. Heinlein[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/robert_a_heinlein_136368?src=t_liberal[/FONT]
 
Phantasmal said:
[FONT="]Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. Robert A. Heinlein[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#333333][FONT="]Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/robert_a_heinlein_136368?src=t_liberal[/FONT]
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Thanks for this.
Words, in the hands of great writers and thinkers, can be stripped down to represent profound truths in the most elegant, economical, and lucid way possible.

Given the low education level, low mental acuity, and poor communication skills of ubiquitous internet mouth-breathers, it is little nuggets like your post that keep me wading through the detritus!
 
I don't see anything wrong with this "choice"

you're here illegally, leave.
Either take your children with you or leave them here if you feel their well being is in jeopardy. We are a compassionate nation
 
Old Trapper said:
And then there are cocksuckers like you who wouldn't know the truth, or tell it, if it would upset your king. Obama did not order children to be removed from their parents, and the consequences of his immigration action under ATEP were unforeseen. Your cocksucking coward POS you call President is deliberately separating families, and using the children as pawns.
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If only saying it would make it so. More lies. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...tion-separate-families-immigration/728060002/

So you're the cocksucker that wanted Hitlery. He is YOUR POTUS, like it or not.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
It's never been about what they have to offer.

Seeking asylum is about removing yourself from the area / country you feel threatened in.

Once they are in Mexico, they have escaped the problem they had.
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Do you remember the Ex President of Mexico Vincente Fox endorsed and popularised this:

Manual for Mexican Migrants - Guía del Migrante Mexicano

Pub: La Secretaría de Relaciones Exteriores June 2005

INTRODUCTION

Dear Countryman:

This guide is meant to give you some practical advice that could be useful if you have made the difficult decision to seek new labor opportunities outside your country.

The safe way to enter another country is to obtain your passport from the Mexican foreign ministry, and a visa from the embassy or consulate of the country to which you wish to travel.

Still, in practice we see many cases of Mexicans who try to cross the northern border without the necessary documents, traveling through dangerous terrain, which includes deserts and rivers with strong and sometimes invisible currents.

Translation by Lupita Ramirez

http://www.banderasnews.com/0506/nr-guia01.htm

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Go to link and read. The translation is in English.

Push the NEXT to see the whole tract.
 
Mexican government officials "hand out brochures showing individuals how they can avoid our Border Patrol, how they can get into our country."
— Lamar Smith on Thursday, May 20th, 2010

"You are saying that the Mexican government is passing out leaflets on how to cross the border?" Smith's reply: "They have done that in the past, on how to, of course how to be safe, and maybe how to get food and water, but also how to avoid detection."

Has Mexico really been giving its citizens advice on how to sneak into the United States without running into the Border Patrol?

In response to our inquiry, Jamie Zuieback, who works for Smith as an aide to the House Judiciary Committee, pointed us to an opinion piece that aired on National Public Radio on Jan. 27, 2005. In it, commentator Gustavo Arellano reacts to a pamphlet produced by the Mexican foreign ministry called "Guia del Migrante Mexicano," or "Guide for the Mexican Migrant." Earlier that month, The New York Times reported that about 1.5 million copies of the guide had been distributed across Mexico in December 2004.


In his commentary, Arellano said the 32-page booklet "advises Mexicans who are thinking of leaving their homeland on the best ways to do it." Arrellano noted that the publication riled some American lawmakers, who described it as a manual on how to enter the country illegally -- a position aired at the time by then-U.S. Rep. J.D. Hayworth, R-Ariz., in an opinion article published in the Jan. 9, 2005, Austin American-Statesman. (Hayworth is challenging U.S. Sen. John McCain in Arizona's 2010 Republican primary.)

Several weeks later, Francisco Alejo, who was then the Austin-based Mexican consul general, responded to Hayworth with an opinion piece in the Statesman. He wrote: "In no way does the guide promote undocumented immigration into the United States. As it is clearly stated in the guide’s introduction and on the back cover, the safe and appropriate way to enter any country -- including the United States -- is with a valid passport and visa."

Alejo said the guide was produced to advise "people of the risks involved in, as well as the legal consequences of, crossing into the United States." His article also said the Mexican government had produced similar guides in the past.
http://www.politifact.com/texas/sta...says-mexico-hands-out-brochures-showing-migr/
 
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