Trump Calling Mexicans Rapists

[Evmetro]

Trump did not say illegals. Did he forget that in his speech?.

I do not recall hearing Trump say illegals in that quote, nor do I recall saying that he did.

If you zoom out a little bit and study some of his speech before and after the famous quote, you can get a better understanding of the context of it. Although the quote was made into a very popular lefty talking point, the real context is important and can still be found. The MSM was assuming that you would never look beyond that quote that they took out of context.

 

[Nordberg]

it was a campaign meme of trump. He said it many times. I watched his stupid campaign stops on CNN.

 

[Evmetro]

it was a campaign meme of trump. He said it many times. I watched his stupid campaign stops on CNN.

CNN did not make a habit of airing that quote in its full and correct context. You only saw what CNN limited you to. I don't think you understand the context thing.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

it was a campaign meme of trump. He said it many times. I watched his stupid campaign stops on CNN.

you should have listened to what he actually said instead of relying on the CNN pundits misrepresentations.....

 

[katzgar]

Can't get much dumber than Trump calling Mexicans rapists

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Can't get much dumber than Trump calling Mexicans rapists

unless you count lib'ruls pretending Trump called Mexican's rapists......that's a LOT dumber......

 

[Evmetro]

Can't get much dumber than Trump calling Mexicans rapists

If only saying something enough times could make something into a fact. You could keep saying that you are rich, or that Trump was impeached, and it would suddenly become fact!

 

[katzgar]

If only saying something enough times could make something into a fact. You could keep saying that you are rich, or that Trump was impeached, and it would suddenly become fact!

most people are embarrassed defending trump

 

[Nordberg]

I rarely watch CNN. That is just so damn stupid. I am not like you rightys who have only one source for news. I even watch Fox sometimes, but I get embarrassed when they think they are giving news. it is low level crude propaganda. The courts say Fox is not news, so they are not judged by having to tell the truth.

CNN is a middle of the road news station with no discernible bias. What is anti Trump ,are facts. He lies and the Repubs are forced to lie oi cover him up. It is nor working.

 

[Evmetro]

Almost a year later, and still no posts of a link to Trump calling all Mexicans rapists.

 

[kudzu]

No. Trump's comments were not connected in any way to Mexicans as a group, they were in regard to illegal immigrants.

Donald Trump ignited a fierce row with Mexico by claiming the country's immigrants to the US were not its "best" during the launch of his presidential bid at Trump Towers in New York in June 2015.

He said: "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best.

"They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us.

"They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

 

[Evmetro]

Donald Trump ignited a fierce row with Mexico by claiming the country's immigrants to the US were not its "best" during the launch of his presidential bid at Trump Towers in New York in June 2015.

He said: "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best.

"They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us.

"They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

First, here is the actual quote:

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

Now, let's have a closer look at this:

In the first sentence, he is talking about people who he alleges that Mexico sends, and he has excluded "Mexico's best" from the people who he is talking about. This first sentence clearly shows that Trump was not commenting on "all" Mexicans, just the people who Mexico sends who are not also not Mexico's best.

Ok, next sentence. "They're not sending you, they're not sending you", sounds like it is open to interpretation, but the one thing we do know is that he is not talking about Mexico's best, or all Mexicans.

The next sentence really narrows things down as far as who he is talking about. "They're sending people who have lots of problems, and they are bringing those problems with us." Here, he has narrowed down who he is talking about to people Mexico sends, who are not Mexico's best, certainly not every Mexican everywhere, and who are bringing problems. His grammar is pretty screwed up with the "us" thing, but it does not appear he is intending on including "us" as who he is talking about.

This next part is not describing who he is talking about, but tells us some of the "problems" of the people who Mexico sends who are bringing problems. "They're bringing drugs, They're bringing crime. They're rapists." Those problems that this isolated group of people who are not Mexico's best, not you, not all Mexicans, and who have problems, do sound pretty bad, so I am sure glad that Trump brought these things up. These things need to be brought up and be handled.

Last sentence: "And some I assume, are good people." It was pretty generous that Trump added this on, considering the kinds of problems that this isolated group of people are bringing. He assumes that some of these people who Mexico sends who are not Mexico's best, not you, not all Mexicans, and who are bringing such problems are actually good people.

Now we know who Trump was talking about:
An isolated group of people who Mexico sends who are not Mexico's best, not you, and who bring lots of problems.

Now we know who he was not talking about:
He was not talking about Mexico's best, or all Mexicans, or you.

 

[Gotcha68]

Actually, I broke down what he really did say. It was not opinion at all, it was Trump's actual words. All we have to go on are Trump's exact words. Can you show me in Trump's exact words, and in proper context, where he called Mexicans rapists?

If you have to break down someone's words to explain what he really meant than, not only did the speaker fail to make himself clear, but you are adding your own understanding/assumptions to whatever he actually meant.

Almost sounds like god believers insisting on explaining what God "really meant" because what God actually said sounds so damn horrible.

 

[kudzu]

First, here is the actual quote:

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

Now, let's have a closer look at this:

In the first sentence, he is talking about people who he alleges that Mexico sends, and he has excluded "Mexico's best" from the people who he is talking about. This first sentence clearly shows that Trump was not commenting on "all" Mexicans, just the people who Mexico sends who are not also not Mexico's best.

Ok, next sentence. "They're not sending you, they're not sending you", sounds like it is open to interpretation, but the one thing we do know is that he is not talking about Mexico's best, or all Mexicans.

The next sentence really narrows things down as far as who he is talking about. "They're sending people who have lots of problems, and they are bringing those problems with us." Here, he has narrowed down who he is talking about to people Mexico sends, who are not Mexico's best, certainly not every Mexican everywhere, and who are bringing problems. His grammar is pretty screwed up with the "us" thing, but it does not appear he is intending on including "us" as who he is talking about.

This next part is not describing who he is talking about, but tells us some of the "problems" of the people who Mexico sends who are bringing problems. "They're bringing drugs, They're bringing crime. They're rapists." Those problems that this isolated group of people who are not Mexico's best, not you, not all Mexicans, and who have problems, do sound pretty bad, so I am sure glad that Trump brought these things up. These things need to be brought up and be handled.

Last sentence: "And some I assume, are good people." It was pretty generous that Trump added this on, considering the kinds of problems that this isolated group of people are bringing. He assumes that some of these people who Mexico sends who are not Mexico's best, not you, not all Mexicans, and who are bringing such problems are actually good people.

Now we know who Trump was talking about:
An isolated group of people who Mexico sends who are not Mexico's best, not you, and who bring lots of problems.

Now we know who he was not talking about:
He was not talking about Mexico's best, or all Mexicans, or you.

Mexico sends?

He made that speech when he announced his run for office.

 

[Evmetro]

If you have to break down someone's words to explain what he really meant than, not only did the speaker fail to make himself clear, but you are adding your own understanding/assumptions to whatever he actually meant.

Almost sounds like god believers insisting on explaining what God "really meant" because what God actually said sounds so damn horrible.

Is there some reason why you reject the actual words that Trump really did say? Please detail what you think I added.

 

[Evmetro]

Mexico sends?

He made that speech when he announced his run for office.

I am very aware of when he made that speech, and yes, "Mexico sends" are two words in a row from this famous quote.

Do you see anywhere in there where he says all Mexicans are rapists?

 

[Gotcha68]

Is there some reason why you reject the actual words that Trump really did say? Please detail what you think I added.

You yourself stated several times that context needed to be understood. Context is additional information provided by whomever is breaking down the commentary. You are, in essence, adding your own flavor to the soup by appointing yourself as the one who needs to break it down for others to see the light.

 

[kudzu]

I am very aware of when he made that speech, and yes, "Mexico sends" are two words in a row from this famous quote.

Do you see anywhere in there where he says all Mexicans are rapists?

June 2015.

He said: "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best.

"They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us.

"They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

 

[Evmetro]

June 2015.

He said: "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best.

"They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us.

"They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

And if he is making this broad generalization that all Mexicans are rapists, where in that quote is he referring to the legal Mexican immigrants who are already here, members of my family, or the millions of Mexicans who are not part of the very small isolated group that he describes in the full context of that quote as rapists? Who exactly is Trump referring to in that partial quote?

 

[Evmetro]

You yourself stated several times that context needed to be understood. Context is additional information provided by whomever is breaking down the commentary. You are, in essence, adding your own flavor to the soup by appointing yourself as the one who needs to break it down for others to see the light.

Please detail what I have added.