Trump Clinton dead locked according to NYT

Jarod said:
TR was a bully in a very different way, he was not crude or rude toward individuals. He was not an ass. My children see Trump and they identify him as the people the anti-bullying..
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well politics aint beanbag; and after Obama's inability to project American Exceptonalism ( TPP, loss of standing in the world) -
I can put up with it..if not accept it as the norm.

That's what I meant by bully - I do believe in America first -of course that has to be tempered with reality and diplomacy.
And I would be fine with Clinton -except her arrogance is one of entrenched power.
The Clinton's go by their own playbook -and to me that is more dangerous to the Republic then gross language
 
anatta said:
well politics aint beanbag; and after Obama's inability to project American Exceptonalism ( TPP, loss of standing in the world) -
I can put up with it..if not accept it as the norm.

That's what I meant by bully - I do believe in America first -of course that has to be tempered with reality and diplomacy.
And I would be fine with Clinton -except her arrogance is one of entrenched power.
The Clinton's go by their own playbook -and to me that is more dangerous to the Republic then gross language
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I understand your position here, but I would only say Trumps problem is much worse than a simple tendency toward gross language. I am concerned how he will respond the next time an American airliner goes down in a way that appears like it might be caused by terrorism.
 
Jarod said:
I understand your position here, but I would only say Trumps problem is much worse than a simple tendency toward gross language. I am concerned how he will respond the next time an American airliner goes down in a way that appears like it might be caused by terrorism.
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are you reffering to that Egyptian airliner? if so that isn't resolved, but even if it was mechanics..I doubt you'd see anymore then what Obama does.
Clinton's proclivity towards wars would balance it out either way.
I do agree with your point of him being a hot head. I would think the institutional mechanisms of the presidency and governing
would chill him out.
 
Jarod said:
My major objections to the Orange One are two fold... first and foremost his volatile, and bullying personality. Its harmful to our culture and our reputation abroad. My own children have asked me, "If bullies are bad, why did Trump win the Republican race." My second concern is the Supreme Court. The people Orangie has listed as his potential picks are awful for the concept of freedom and individual liberty. They desire to give power over individuals to the States with no mechanism for the Fed to protect individual liberty.
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you have to have the actual concept of freedom and individual liberty to actually know if potential picks are awful for freedom and individual liberty. you do not.
 
anatta said:
are you reffering to that Egyptian airliner? if so that isn't resolved, but even if it was mechanics..I doubt you'd see anymore then what Obama does.
Clinton's proclivity towards wars would balance it out either way.
I do agree with your point of him being a hot head. I would think the institutional mechanisms of the presidency and governing
would chill him out.
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I hope you are correct.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
you have to have the actual concept of freedom and individual liberty to actually know if potential picks are awful for freedom and individual liberty. you do not.
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Freedom to marry the person of your choice for example.
Freedom to buy contraception.
Freedom to chose the medical procedures you and your doctor agree upon.
 
Jarod said:
Freedom to marry the person of your choice for example.
Freedom to buy contraception.
Freedom to chose the medical procedures you and your doctor agree upon.
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freedom to own the necessary firearms to prevent government tyranny, or police state brutality, self defense from the government.

you've said many times that rights are not unlimited, so by that acknowledgement, the rights you've listed are subject to reasonable restrictions. how is that freedom and individual liberty?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
freedom to own the necessary firearms to prevent government tyranny, or police state brutality, self defense from the government.

you've said many times that rights are not unlimited, so by that acknowledgement, the rights you've listed are subject to reasonable restrictions. how is that freedom and individual liberty?
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The key is reasonable.
 
Jarod said:
TR was a bully in a very different way, he was not crude or rude toward individuals. He was not an ass. My children see Trump and they identify him as the people the anti-bullying campaign at school is warning about.
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raise up your children in the way that they should go and they will be brainwashed liberals forever......
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
He really needs to stop being his own worst enemy. A simple thing like backing off a notch on the rhetoric would go a long way to attracting people like yourself.

There's a huge chunk of undecided voters looking for an excuse to not vote for Hillary. Probably the key to the election.
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He's not going to change (cave) Trump being Trump is exactly why he will win this election. He cannot start catering to the left or become a Cwacko-like republican because the moment he does, the working middle class, the economic engine of this country where most of the wealth is created and most of the jobs are created will turn against him.

Anatta aside, you either vote for change or you vote for Hillary but don't expect a Mitt Romney like change in Trump. It aint gonna happen.
 
Celticguy said:
The objection to back alley abortions was lack of proper medical care. Texas tries to require it and all the sudden it doesn't matter.
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The abortion fight is over. It's clearly a states issue and always has been but it is a supreme court protected sacred cow. Pro lifers can only hope to keep fighting to put restrictions on it and they have and will continue to do so but this is a dead horse issue because it was made into law nationwide by the SC in the first place.
 
philly rabbit said:
He's not going to change (cave) Trump being Trump is exactly why he will win this election. He cannot start catering to the left or become a Cwacko-like republican because the moment he does, the working middle class, the economic engine of this country where most of the wealth is created and most of the jobs are created will turn against him.

Anatta aside, you either vote for change or you vote for Hillary but don't expect a Mitt Romney like change in Trump. It aint gonna happen.
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Trump doesn't need to change the fundamentals: there are good poll numbers in opposition of Syrian immigration for example. Stress that, and leave Muslims out of it.

And omg, avoid the Stupid. Don't get mixed up with Mexican judges and the like. You can be politically incorrect and stick to your principles without Tweeting stupidity.
 
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