Trump denies the fact that police kill Black Americans at a higher rate than white


Police kill disproportionately more unarmed whites than unarmed blacks when accounting for the disproportionate crime rates EG black males only account for 6% of the population but commit 52% of the homicides. They get killed more police in real numbers because police are located more predominantly in areas with higher crime rates.

Furthermore; black police are more likely to kill black suspects than white police completely debunking the theory that it is racially motivated. The NYTs is BLM Marxist propaganda. The problem isn't police the problem is blacks.

And yes, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, black offenders committed 52 per cent of homicides recorded in the data between 1980 and 2008. Only 45 per cent of the offenders were white. Homicide is a broader category than “murder” but let’s not split hairs.

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Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimisation rate was six times higher.

As we found yesterday, 93 per cent of black victims were killed by blacks and 84 per cent of white victims were killed by whites.

Alternative statistics from the FBI are more up to date but include many crimes where the killer’s race is not recorded. These numbers tell a similar story.

In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38 per cent of murders, compared to 31.1 per cent for whites. The offender’s race was “unknown” in 29.1 per cent of cases.

What about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black.

Clearly, these figures are problematic. We’re talking about arrests not convictions, and high black arrest rates could be taken as evidence that the police are racist.

But academics have noted that the proportion of black suspects arrested by the police tends to match closely the proportion of offenders identified as black by victims in the National Crime Victimization Survey.

This doesn’t support the idea that the police are unfairly discriminating against the black population when they make arrests.


https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime

“We found that the race of the officer doesn’t matter when it comes to predicting whether black or white citizens are shot,” Cesario said. “If anything, black citizens are more likely to have been shot by black officers, but this is because black officers are drawn from the same population that they police. So, the more black citizens there are in a community, the more black police officers there are.”

The data show that it’s not racial bias on behalf of white officers relative to black officers when it comes to fatal shootings, and that’s good news. The bad news, Cesario said, is that internal policy changes, such as diversifying police forces, may not reduce shootings of minority citizens.

Beyond officer race, the team drew other conclusions about details related to racial disparities in fatal officer shootings.

“Many people ask whether black or white citizens are more likely to be shot and why. We found that violent crime rates are the driving force behind fatal shootings,” Cesario said.

“Our data show that the rate of crime by each racial group correlates with the likelihood of citizens from that racial group being shot. If you live in a county that has a lot of white people committing crimes, white people are more likely to be shot. If you live in a county that has a lot of black people committing crimes, black people are more likely to be shot. It is the best predictor we have of fatal police shootings.”


https://research.msu.edu/the-truth-behind-racial-disparties-in-fatal-police-shootings/
 
No, you are generally a Dick...But I do believe that you could do better if you tried.

Your general failure to perform has always been a mystery to me.

I have always been expecting better work from you.

APL IS a good and honest man. AND he's my favorite poster on this site.:cool:
 
I don't think BLM is right about systemic racism either. But the question was about why Blacks are killed at higher rates. I'd say it's because Blacks commit more crime, but Trump totally missed the point and just started talking about raw numbers.

They aren't, police kill disproportionately more unarmed whites than unarmed blacks when accounting for the disproportionate crime rates EG black males only account for 6% of the population but commit 52% of the homicides. They get killed more police in real numbers because police are located more predominantly in areas with higher crime rates.

Furthermore; black police are more likely to kill black suspects than white police completely debunking the theory that it is racially motivated. The NYTs is BLM Marxist propaganda. The problem isn't police the problem is blacks.

And yes, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, black offenders committed 52 per cent of homicides recorded in the data between 1980 and 2008. Only 45 per cent of the offenders were white. Homicide is a broader category than “murder” but let’s not split hairs.

27_bjs_use.jpg


Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimisation rate was six times higher.

As we found yesterday, 93 per cent of black victims were killed by blacks and 84 per cent of white victims were killed by whites.

Alternative statistics from the FBI are more up to date but include many crimes where the killer’s race is not recorded. These numbers tell a similar story.

In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38 per cent of murders, compared to 31.1 per cent for whites. The offender’s race was “unknown” in 29.1 per cent of cases.

What about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black.

Clearly, these figures are problematic. We’re talking about arrests not convictions, and high black arrest rates could be taken as evidence that the police are racist.

But academics have noted that the proportion of black suspects arrested by the police tends to match closely the proportion of offenders identified as black by victims in the National Crime Victimization Survey.

This doesn’t support the idea that the police are unfairly discriminating against the black population when they make arrests.


https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime

“We found that the race of the officer doesn’t matter when it comes to predicting whether black or white citizens are shot,” Cesario said. “If anything, black citizens are more likely to have been shot by black officers, but this is because black officers are drawn from the same population that they police. So, the more black citizens there are in a community, the more black police officers there are.”

The data show that it’s not racial bias on behalf of white officers relative to black officers when it comes to fatal shootings, and that’s good news. The bad news, Cesario said, is that internal policy changes, such as diversifying police forces, may not reduce shootings of minority citizens.

Beyond officer race, the team drew other conclusions about details related to racial disparities in fatal officer shootings.

“Many people ask whether black or white citizens are more likely to be shot and why. We found that violent crime rates are the driving force behind fatal shootings,” Cesario said.

“Our data show that the rate of crime by each racial group correlates with the likelihood of citizens from that racial group being shot. If you live in a county that has a lot of white people committing crimes, white people are more likely to be shot. If you live in a county that has a lot of black people committing crimes, black people are more likely to be shot. It is the best predictor we have of fatal police shootings.”


https://research.msu.edu/the-truth-behind-racial-disparties-in-fatal-police-shootings/
 
Hey illiterate fucktard they addressed the issue of potential racial profiling and it was debunked. Furthermore; the poorest communities in the country are in the white hollers of Kentucky and throughout the Appalachians in general you dumb fuck, not only are they dirt poor they dont have access to many modern conveniences which urban blacks have in abundance. Get educated.

You are one ignorant cracka

how many times have you been pulled over by the police, its called driving while black


10 things we know about race and policing in the U.S.


Black adults are about five times as likely as whites to say they’ve been unfairly stopped by police because of their race or ethnicity (44% vs. 9%), according to the same survey. Black men are especially likely to say this: 59% say they’ve been unfairly stopped, versus 31% of black women.


https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...s-we-know-about-race-and-policing-in-the-u-s/
 
You are one ignorant cracka

how many times have you been pulled over by the police, its called driving while black


10 things we know about race and policing in the U.S.


Black adults are about five times as likely as whites to say they’ve been unfairly stopped by police because of their race or ethnicity (44% vs. 9%), according to the same survey. Black men are especially likely to say this: 59% say they’ve been unfairly stopped, versus 31% of black women.


https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...s-we-know-about-race-and-policing-in-the-u-s/

Guess you read about it also ,right white boy?
 
You are one ignorant cracka

how many times have you been pulled over by the police, its called driving while black


10 things we know about race and policing in the U.S.


Black adults are about five times as likely as whites to say they’ve been unfairly stopped by police because of their race or ethnicity (44% vs. 9%), according to the same survey. Black men are especially likely to say this: 59% say they’ve been unfairly stopped, versus 31% of black women.


https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...s-we-know-about-race-and-policing-in-the-u-s/

Correct. I lived in LA before and after the Rodney King riots and all black males told me about stopped for no reason by the cops.
 
Hey illiterate fucktard they addressed the issue of potential racial profiling and it was debunked. Furthermore; the poorest communities in the country are in the white hollers of Kentucky and throughout the Appalachians in general you dumb fuck, not only are they dirt poor they dont have access to many modern conveniences which urban blacks have in abundance. Get educated.

Yep, and those are epicenters of illegal opioid abuse. I don’t see any indication where there are widespread arrests and convictions there, do you? Yet, Floyd was busted multiple times for minor possession. Even arrested once for failing to identify himself to officers.

Placing your head up your ass doesn’t help you with reality, Jethro.

:rofl2:
 
Police kill disproportionately more unarmed whites than unarmed blacks when accounting for the disproportionate crime rates EG black males only account for 6% of the population but commit 52% of the homicides. They get killed more police in real numbers because police are located more predominantly in areas with higher crime rates.

Furthermore; black police are more likely to kill black suspects than white police completely debunking the theory that it is racially motivated. The NYTs is BLM Marxist propaganda. The problem isn't police the problem is blacks.

And yes, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, black offenders committed 52 per cent of homicides recorded in the data between 1980 and 2008. Only 45 per cent of the offenders were white. Homicide is a broader category than “murder” but let’s not split hairs.

27_bjs_use.jpg


Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimisation rate was six times higher.

As we found yesterday, 93 per cent of black victims were killed by blacks and 84 per cent of white victims were killed by whites.

Alternative statistics from the FBI are more up to date but include many crimes where the killer’s race is not recorded. These numbers tell a similar story.

In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38 per cent of murders, compared to 31.1 per cent for whites. The offender’s race was “unknown” in 29.1 per cent of cases.

What about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black.

Clearly, these figures are problematic. We’re talking about arrests not convictions, and high black arrest rates could be taken as evidence that the police are racist.

But academics have noted that the proportion of black suspects arrested by the police tends to match closely the proportion of offenders identified as black by victims in the National Crime Victimization Survey.

This doesn’t support the idea that the police are unfairly discriminating against the black population when they make arrests.


https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime

“We found that the race of the officer doesn’t matter when it comes to predicting whether black or white citizens are shot,” Cesario said. “If anything, black citizens are more likely to have been shot by black officers, but this is because black officers are drawn from the same population that they police. So, the more black citizens there are in a community, the more black police officers there are.”

The data show that it’s not racial bias on behalf of white officers relative to black officers when it comes to fatal shootings, and that’s good news. The bad news, Cesario said, is that internal policy changes, such as diversifying police forces, may not reduce shootings of minority citizens.

Beyond officer race, the team drew other conclusions about details related to racial disparities in fatal officer shootings.

“Many people ask whether black or white citizens are more likely to be shot and why. We found that violent crime rates are the driving force behind fatal shootings,” Cesario said.

“Our data show that the rate of crime by each racial group correlates with the likelihood of citizens from that racial group being shot. If you live in a county that has a lot of white people committing crimes, white people are more likely to be shot. If you live in a county that has a lot of black people committing crimes, black people are more likely to be shot. It is the best predictor we have of fatal police shootings.”


https://research.msu.edu/the-truth-behind-racial-disparties-in-fatal-police-shootings/

Fail, dumbfuck.

99.999%. Let’s see it.
 
Police kill disproportionately more unarmed whites than unarmed blacks when accounting for the disproportionate crime rates EG black males only account for 6% of the population but commit 52% of the homicides. They get killed more police in real numbers because police are located more predominantly in areas with higher crime rates.

Furthermore; black police are more likely to kill black suspects than white police completely debunking the theory that it is racially motivated. The NYTs is BLM Marxist propaganda. The problem isn't police the problem is blacks.

And yes, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, black offenders committed 52 per cent of homicides recorded in the data between 1980 and 2008. Only 45 per cent of the offenders were white. Homicide is a broader category than “murder” but let’s not split hairs.

27_bjs_use.jpg


Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimisation rate was six times higher.

As we found yesterday, 93 per cent of black victims were killed by blacks and 84 per cent of white victims were killed by whites.

Alternative statistics from the FBI are more up to date but include many crimes where the killer’s race is not recorded. These numbers tell a similar story.

In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38 per cent of murders, compared to 31.1 per cent for whites. The offender’s race was “unknown” in 29.1 per cent of cases.

What about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black.

Clearly, these figures are problematic. We’re talking about arrests not convictions, and high black arrest rates could be taken as evidence that the police are racist.

But academics have noted that the proportion of black suspects arrested by the police tends to match closely the proportion of offenders identified as black by victims in the National Crime Victimization Survey.

This doesn’t support the idea that the police are unfairly discriminating against the black population when they make arrests.


https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime

“We found that the race of the officer doesn’t matter when it comes to predicting whether black or white citizens are shot,” Cesario said. “If anything, black citizens are more likely to have been shot by black officers, but this is because black officers are drawn from the same population that they police. So, the more black citizens there are in a community, the more black police officers there are.”

The data show that it’s not racial bias on behalf of white officers relative to black officers when it comes to fatal shootings, and that’s good news. The bad news, Cesario said, is that internal policy changes, such as diversifying police forces, may not reduce shootings of minority citizens.

Beyond officer race, the team drew other conclusions about details related to racial disparities in fatal officer shootings.

“Many people ask whether black or white citizens are more likely to be shot and why. We found that violent crime rates are the driving force behind fatal shootings,” Cesario said.

“Our data show that the rate of crime by each racial group correlates with the likelihood of citizens from that racial group being shot. If you live in a county that has a lot of white people committing crimes, white people are more likely to be shot. If you live in a county that has a lot of black people committing crimes, black people are more likely to be shot. It is the best predictor we have of fatal police shootings.”


https://research.msu.edu/the-truth-behind-racial-disparties-in-fatal-police-shootings/

Fail, dumbfuck.

99.999%. Let’s see it, asswipe, or be a liar.
 
Trump denies the fact that police kill Black Americans at a higher rate than white?

There are really only one of two reasons for this.

Either he is so stupid, he doesn't understand how to calculate a per capita OR.....

He thinks most people are so stupid they don't understand how to calculate a per capita- Which is more likely the case!

Have you ever noticed Donald Trump say he loves stupid people?

It must be true, BECAUSE HE SURELY LOVE'S HIMSELF!

This thread is built upon a lie, false statistics and a strawman.

Here's the exchange that triggered morons on the left and the PHONY media reporting:

When asked in an interview today why Black Americans are “still dying at the hands of law enforcement in this country,” President Donald Trump responded:

“So are white people. So are white people. What a terrible question to ask. So are white people,” Trump told CBS News senior investigative correspondent Catherine Herridge at the White House. “More people, by the way. More white people.”


So taken in context; Trump is 100% correct. Far more whites are killed by the cops than blacks. So let's look at the triggered loons PHONY NEWS headlines:

Trump’s dismal dismissal of police killings of Black people
https://atlantadailyworld.com/2020/07/15/trumps-dismal-dismissal-of-police-killings-of-black-people/

Trump downplays police violence against Black people, says 'more white people' killed
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/u...ple-says-more-white-people-killed/ar-BB16JUI0

Trump Both-Sides A Question About Police Killings Of Black People
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-police-killing-floyd

And you tools on the left wonder why we call it the PHONY MEDIA????
:palm:
 
And he didn’t actually say anything that wasn’t true lol.

But it caused a fuss because it goes against the narrative. What goes on here is stats can be used to support either position—it’s a simply matter of how the stats are analyzed and the degree to which other factors are taken into account.

But the real story here is half the country is being led by the carrot on race—and the donkey never really gets the carrot. Being ‘played’ is another way to put it.

It’s Orwellian, that the rate of black on black homicide is considered ‘the deflection’ compared to the occasional black that gets killed by a cop. Take all the black murder victims in a year and put them in a lottery. The ones who happen to be killed by a cop are the lottery winners, statistically.

If they are unarmed and killed by a white cop—they hit the mega lottery and they become household names. In reality, they are a drop in the bucket.

We’re never going to get the carrot on race—because the donkey isn’t supposed to get the carrot.

Stop being a donkey.

The exchange that triggered the loons on the left and PHONY Media:

“And so are white people. So are white people. What a terrible question to ask. So are white people," Trump told CBS's Catherine Herridge. “More white people, by the way. More white people.”
 
Not when accounting for crime statistics you stupid fuck.

Police kill disproportionately more unarmed whites than unarmed blacks when accounting for the disproportionate crime rates EG black males only account for 6% of the population but commit 52% of the homicides. They get killed more police in real numbers because police are located more predominantly in areas with higher crime rates.

Furthermore; black police are more likely to kill black suspects than white police completely debunking the theory that it is racially motivated. The NYTs is BLM Marxist propaganda. The problem isn't police the problem is blacks.

And yes, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, black offenders committed 52 per cent of homicides recorded in the data between 1980 and 2008. Only 45 per cent of the offenders were white. Homicide is a broader category than “murder” but let’s not split hairs.

27_bjs_use.jpg


Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimisation rate was six times higher.

As we found yesterday, 93 per cent of black victims were killed by blacks and 84 per cent of white victims were killed by whites.

Alternative statistics from the FBI are more up to date but include many crimes where the killer’s race is not recorded. These numbers tell a similar story.

In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38 per cent of murders, compared to 31.1 per cent for whites. The offender’s race was “unknown” in 29.1 per cent of cases.

What about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black.

Clearly, these figures are problematic. We’re talking about arrests not convictions, and high black arrest rates could be taken as evidence that the police are racist.

But academics have noted that the proportion of black suspects arrested by the police tends to match closely the proportion of offenders identified as black by victims in the National Crime Victimization Survey.

This doesn’t support the idea that the police are unfairly discriminating against the black population when they make arrests.


https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime

“We found that the race of the officer doesn’t matter when it comes to predicting whether black or white citizens are shot,” Cesario said. “If anything, black citizens are more likely to have been shot by black officers, but this is because black officers are drawn from the same population that they police. So, the more black citizens there are in a community, the more black police officers there are.”

The data show that it’s not racial bias on behalf of white officers relative to black officers when it comes to fatal shootings, and that’s good news. The bad news, Cesario said, is that internal policy changes, such as diversifying police forces, may not reduce shootings of minority citizens.

Beyond officer race, the team drew other conclusions about details related to racial disparities in fatal officer shootings.

“Many people ask whether black or white citizens are more likely to be shot and why. We found that violent crime rates are the driving force behind fatal shootings,” Cesario said.

“Our data show that the rate of crime by each racial group correlates with the likelihood of citizens from that racial group being shot. If you live in a county that has a lot of white people committing crimes, white people are more likely to be shot. If you live in a county that has a lot of black people committing crimes, black people are more likely to be shot. It is the best predictor we have of fatal police shootings.”


https://research.msu.edu/the-truth-behind-racial-disparties-in-fatal-police-shootings/

Nice post, thank you.
 
Since 50% of violent crime in America is committed by 13% (actually 7% are young black males) one would expect more blacks to be killed .

The answer...tell the blacks to stop committing violent crimes.

...and to not resist arrest, refuse to comply with police commands, be polite to the police and to not run. This is only rocket science to morons. :palm:
 
This thread is built upon a lie, false statistics and a strawman.

Here's the exchange that triggered morons on the left and the PHONY media reporting:

When asked in an interview today why Black Americans are “still dying at the hands of law enforcement in this country,” President Donald Trump responded:

“So are white people. So are white people. What a terrible question to ask. So are white people,” Trump told CBS News senior investigative correspondent Catherine Herridge at the White House. “More people, by the way. More white people.”


So taken in context; Trump is 100% correct. Far more whites are killed by the cops than blacks. So let's look at the triggered loons PHONY NEWS headlines:

Trump’s dismal dismissal of police killings of Black people
https://atlantadailyworld.com/2020/07/15/trumps-dismal-dismissal-of-police-killings-of-black-people/

Trump downplays police violence against Black people, says 'more white people' killed
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/u...ple-says-more-white-people-killed/ar-BB16JUI0

Trump Both-Sides A Question About Police Killings Of Black People
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-police-killing-floyd

And you tools on the left wonder why we call it the PHONY MEDIA????
:palm:

Excellent post, TD. Thank you.
 
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