Trump is biggest threat to national security

[T. A. Gardner]

Drug trade. Simple supply and demand. Pure capitalism.

To an extent. But this doesn't address what is driving demand.

Major users of opioids and fentanyl? Trump country.

Maybe... But the overwhelming majority of those deaths are Blacks and Native Americans, not Whites. Given their numbers in the population, fentanyl is decimating the Black and Native populations more effectively than a war or plague could ever do...

On immigration. Not to fret. As soon as the House gets in order, they’ll handle it immediately.

No Congress won't. Congress has done little or nothing about illegal immigration for decades. That isn't going to suddenly change. That Biden isn't even bothering to enforce existing immigration laws in the least is the major problem at the moment. Oh, that's also a gross violation of his oath of office...

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

To an extent. But this doesn't address what is driving demand.



Maybe... But the overwhelming majority of those deaths are Blacks and Native Americans, not Whites. Given their numbers in the population, fentanyl is decimating the Black and Native populations more effectively than a war or plague could ever do...



No Congress won't. Congress has done little or nothing about illegal immigration for decades. That isn't going to suddenly change. That Biden isn't even bothering to enforce existing immigration laws in the least is the major problem at the moment. Oh, that's also a gross violation of his oath of office...

at some point you will have to face the fact that business needs to me conducted within a moral framework of other concerns. even if it sounds "non globalist".

 

[T. A. Gardner]

at some point you will have to face the fact that business needs to me conducted within a moral framework of other concerns. even if it sounds "non globalist".

Most of what drives the US drug trade is those using have little incentive not to use. They are often marginally employable today. They have little social connection to anything positive in their lives. Moral and social decay largely a result of Leftist - Progressive 'anything goes,' 'don't judge me...' policies implemented by them has rotted out the core of America.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Most of what drives the US drug trade is those using have little incentive not to use. They are often marginally employable today. They have little social connection to anything positive in their lives. Moral and social decay largely a result of Leftist - Progressive 'anything goes,' 'don't judge me...' policies implemented by them has rotted out the core of America.

it's just business. it's not personal, right free market?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

it's just business. it's not personal, right free market?

Even "free" markets have rules and boundaries. What doesn't are black markets.

 

[domer76]

it's been quite some time since Americans have been afraid for the safety of our families and their future...Now, it's something we worry about every day...thanks Joe...

Yep. Know who’s afraid for their family’s safety? Anyone who dares to buck Trump these days. From Congressmen to prosecutors to judges. Now, it even goes down to court personnel.

 

[domer76]

To an extent. But this doesn't address what is driving demand.



Maybe... But the overwhelming majority of those deaths are Blacks and Native Americans, not Whites. Given their numbers in the population, fentanyl is decimating the Black and Native populations more effectively than a war or plague could ever do...



No Congress won't. Congress has done little or nothing about illegal immigration for decades. That isn't going to suddenly change. That Biden isn't even bothering to enforce existing immigration laws in the least is the major problem at the moment. Oh, that's also a gross violation of his oath of office...

Demand is driven by users. And I just told you who they are.

The major opioid crisis is in West Virginia, rural Ohio. Trump country. Know what profession has the highest substance abuse problem? Construction and the extraction industries. Trumpers.

 

[domer76]

Most of what drives the US drug trade is those using have little incentive not to use. They are often marginally employable today. They have little social connection to anything positive in their lives. Moral and social decay largely a result of Leftist - Progressive 'anything goes,' 'don't judge me...' policies implemented by them has rotted out the core of America.

Construction and extraction industries. Biggest drug abusers. Trumpers, not leftist.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Demand is driven by users. And I just told you who they are.

The major opioid crisis is in West Virginia, rural Ohio. Trump country. Know what profession has the highest substance abuse problem? Construction and the extraction industries. Trumpers.

Doesn't change that the majority of the deaths and use are among Blacks and Native Americans who use more illicit drugs. That some White rural counties are suffering similarly doesn't change that. And, the highest drug abuse problem by occupation is among restaurant and service workers...

https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/drug-addiction/professions-highest-rate-abuse/


Past-Month Illicit Drug Use
The industries with the highest levels of illicit drug use in the month prior to the survey were:

Accommodations and food service: 19.1%
Arts, entertainment, and recreation: 13.7%
Management: 12.1%
Information: 11.7%
Construction: 11.6%
The 5 industries with the lowest rates of illicit drug use in the month prior to taking the survey were:

Public administration: 4.3%
Educational services: 4.8%
Mining: 5%
Healthcare and social assistance: 5.5%
Agriculture, forestry, fishing, and hunting: 5.7%
https://americanaddictioncenters.org/occupational-stress-influences

Construction and mining workers tend to abuse alcohol more and use far less illicit drugs. Both are problems, but alcohol isn't an illegal drug and sure as hell isn't anywhere close to as dangerous as fentanyl.

 

[Nordberg]

Doesn't change that the majority of the deaths and use are among Blacks and Native Americans who use more illicit drugs. That some White rural counties are suffering similarly doesn't change that. And, the highest drug abuse problem by occupation is among restaurant and service workers...

https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/drug-addiction/professions-highest-rate-abuse/


Past-Month Illicit Drug Use
The industries with the highest levels of illicit drug use in the month prior to the survey were:

Accommodations and food service: 19.1%
Arts, entertainment, and recreation: 13.7%
Management: 12.1%
Information: 11.7%
Construction: 11.6%
The 5 industries with the lowest rates of illicit drug use in the month prior to taking the survey were:

Public administration: 4.3%
Educational services: 4.8%
Mining: 5%
Healthcare and social assistance: 5.5%
Agriculture, forestry, fishing, and hunting: 5.7%
https://americanaddictioncenters.org/occupational-stress-influences

Construction and mining workers tend to abuse alcohol more and use far less illicit drugs. Both are problems, but alcohol isn't an illegal drug and sure as hell isn't anywhere close to as dangerous as fentanyl.

You divide the country to back your preconceptions. Try dividing drug use by income level. Even rightys can see that the groups you picked are at the bottom of income levels. Insecurity is often treated with drugs. Native Americans, blacks, and farmers have tough lives and see little hope.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

You divide the country to back your preconceptions. Try dividing drug use by income level. Even rightys can see that the groups you picked are at the bottom of income levels. Insecurity is often treated with drugs. Native Americans, blacks, and farmers have tough lives and see little hope.

Okay...

Duke University performed extensive study on the economic factors of drug abuse, finding that young people from impoverished families were more likely to smoke marijuana and cigarettes than middle-class and upper-class young people were. However, the very same study indicates that young people from middle-class or upper-class families are far more likely to abuse alcohol and to binge drink than young people from lower-class families are.
https://www.narcononojai.org/blog/income-levels-and-drug-abuse-does-economics-play-a-part.html

It's more complex than just economic status

https://dualdiagnosis.org/drug-addiction/economic-status/

Poverty, homelessness, and social stigma make addiction more deadly
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog...tigma-make-addiction-more-deadly-202109282602

Since Blacks and Native Americans are the most likely to be impoverished, poorly educated, etc., they are more likely to turn to illegal drugs. Whites in impoverished areas with similar backgrounds are just as likely.

 

[domer76]

Doesn't change that the majority of the deaths and use are among Blacks and Native Americans who use more illicit drugs. That some White rural counties are suffering similarly doesn't change that. And, the highest drug abuse problem by occupation is among restaurant and service workers...

https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/drug-addiction/professions-highest-rate-abuse/


Past-Month Illicit Drug Use
The industries with the highest levels of illicit drug use in the month prior to the survey were:

Accommodations and food service: 19.1%
Arts, entertainment, and recreation: 13.7%
Management: 12.1%
Information: 11.7%
Construction: 11.6%
The 5 industries with the lowest rates of illicit drug use in the month prior to taking the survey were:

Public administration: 4.3%
Educational services: 4.8%
Mining: 5%
Healthcare and social assistance: 5.5%
Agriculture, forestry, fishing, and hunting: 5.7%
https://americanaddictioncenters.org/occupational-stress-influences

Construction and mining workers tend to abuse alcohol more and use far less illicit drugs. Both are problems, but alcohol isn't an illegal drug and sure as hell isn't anywhere close to as dangerous as fentanyl.

Your stats appear to be a little outdated. And tend to refer to just “past month” abuse. I was referring to CDC stats. And we can quibble about the professions. But opioid abuse is HUGE in Trumper country.

Fentanyl not as dangerous as alcohol? You probably are referring to its potency. Alcohol probably brings on more misery to this country, and maybe this world, than any other substance. Bar none. Every Native American reservation is neck deep in alcoholism. Eastern Europe, including the Russians, have cultural alcoholism built in. Domestic abuse. Vehicular deaths. Poor health and loss of quality years. Lost productivity at work. On and on.

 

[domer76]

You divide the country to back your preconceptions. Try dividing drug use by income level. Even rightys can see that the groups you picked are at the bottom of income levels. Insecurity is often treated with drugs. Native Americans, blacks, and farmers have tough lives and see little hope.

Yes. Drug abuse is more of a socioeconomic issue rather than the racial one these guys would like it to be.

 

[Into the Night]

With you it's one pathetic lie after another. Please dont reply and just fuck off.

It's not a lie, dude. You just want to ignore history.

 

[Into the Night]

Now we know that Trump was telling state secrets to people at Mira Lago and other places to childishly show off. Trump is the worst person to have access to our secrets. He will brag about what he knows and show off with super classified info. I am the coolest kid on the block. He should be in jail.

Hallucination.

 

[Into the Night]

Isolationism was laughed at after WW1. It is ridiculous to think you can be all alone in a complex world and prosper. Your thinking is weird.

False dichotomy fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Yep. Know who’s afraid for their family’s safety? Anyone who dares to buck Trump these days. From Congressmen to prosecutors to judges. Now, it even goes down to court personnel.

Hallucination. Paranoia.

 

[Into the Night]

Demand is driven by users. And I just told you who they are.

The major opioid crisis is in West Virginia, rural Ohio. Trump country. Know what profession has the highest substance abuse problem? Construction and the extraction industries. Trumpers.

Hallucination.

 

[Into the Night]

Doesn't change that the majority of the deaths and use are among Blacks and Native Americans who use more illicit drugs. That some White rural counties are suffering similarly doesn't change that. And, the highest drug abuse problem by occupation is among restaurant and service workers...

https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/drug-addiction/professions-highest-rate-abuse/


Past-Month Illicit Drug Use
The industries with the highest levels of illicit drug use in the month prior to the survey were:

Accommodations and food service: 19.1%
Arts, entertainment, and recreation: 13.7%
Management: 12.1%
Information: 11.7%
Construction: 11.6%
The 5 industries with the lowest rates of illicit drug use in the month prior to taking the survey were:

Public administration: 4.3%
Educational services: 4.8%
Mining: 5%
Healthcare and social assistance: 5.5%
Agriculture, forestry, fishing, and hunting: 5.7%
https://americanaddictioncenters.org/occupational-stress-influences

Construction and mining workers tend to abuse alcohol more and use far less illicit drugs. Both are problems, but alcohol isn't an illegal drug and sure as hell isn't anywhere close to as dangerous as fentanyl.

The biggest problem with fentanyl are with the homeless. They are not part of any industry. The steal and rob to pay for their habit.