Trump is hated in Detroit.

You can find a similar photo of wreckage in any city in the United States, even in Texas and Florida and especially in Mississippi and Alabama.

You can also find photos of Detroit in its renaissance:

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It's in the top 10 for cities with the most abandoned properties

 
It's in the top 10 for cities with the most abandoned properties

Detroit is making a huge comeback. Most of the empty homes were bulldozed. There are new businesses growing like weeds in Detroit. New restaurants , bars and businesses are flourishing. Detroit had a population of 1.5 million and now is at 600,000. The big 3 left Detroit and their subcontractors in the lurch. I go to Detroit regularly, but you are the expert.
 
It's in the top 10 for cities with the most abandoned properties

Stop fibbing.

Why the “10th” claim is unlikely​

  • Detroit historically had one of the highest levels of vacant or abandoned housing among major U.S. cities, not mid‑range.
  • Cities with large-scale abandonment issues (e.g., Baltimore, Cleveland, St. Louis, New Orleans, Memphis) often appear in comparative studies, but no authoritative list ranks Detroit 10th.

www.metrotimes.com/news/metro-detroit-news/detroit-demolished-27000-abandoned-homes-under-duggan-as-land-bank-inventory-dwindles/?utm_source=copilot.com
 
Stop fibbing.

Why the “10th” claim is unlikely​

  • Detroit historically had one of the highest levels of vacant or abandoned housing among major U.S. cities, not mid‑range.
  • Cities with large-scale abandonment issues (e.g., Baltimore, Cleveland, St. Louis, New Orleans, Memphis) often appear in comparative studies, but no authoritative list ranks Detroit 10th.

www.metrotimes.com/news/metro-detroit-news/detroit-demolished-27000-abandoned-homes-under-duggan-as-land-bank-inventory-dwindles/?utm_source=copilot.com
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Yep. Loss of good union jobs that were outsourced overseas will do that.

Actually, union jobs generally--not always but generally--don't pay much better than non-union now. Union jobs tend to eat up any additional wages in dues. Unions also frequently make it harder for employees to advance and get promotions since it isn't in the union's interest to let them advance to positions where they are no longer in the union.

Unions also frequently play politics that their members often disagree with. See Beck v. Communications Workers of America for example.
 
Actually, union jobs generally--not always but generally--don't pay much better than non-union now. Union jobs tend to eat up any additional wages in dues. Unions also frequently make it harder for employees to advance and get promotions since it isn't in the union's interest to let them advance to positions where they are no longer in the union.

Unions also frequently play politics that their members often disagree with. See Beck v. Communications Workers of America for example.
Union dues are very small and are paid under the new contract.
 
Actually, union jobs generally--not always but generally--don't pay much better than non-union now. Union jobs tend to eat up any additional wages in dues. Unions also frequently make it harder for employees to advance and get promotions since it isn't in the union's interest to let them advance to positions where they are no longer in the union.

Unions also frequently play politics that their members often disagree with. See Beck v. Communications Workers of America for example.

Unions do pay better generally, not always, but generally.

Unions dues range from acceptable to unacceptable.

This is a new one: unions also frequently make it harder for employees to advance and get promotions.

Unions and businesses play politics that can be upsetting.
 
Unions do pay better generally, not always, but generally.

Unions dues range from acceptable to unacceptable.

This is a new one: unions also frequently make it harder for employees to advance and get promotions.

Unions and businesses play politics that can be upsetting.
Well I worked in the auto industry for almost 40 years and when I retired back in 2004 I was earning about $35 an hour plus COLA.
Union dues are voted on by the members and have been set at 2 hours pay per month for a long long time now.( it was two hours pay when I started back in 1967 and hasn't changed that I know of. , I might be wrong they could have changed it in the last couple of years but I don't think so .
If members feel that is too high they can petition national and bring it up for a vote again.
And the Guy that got fired for yelling at Trump will get his job back . It is hard to get fired and actually lose your job in the auto industry.
maybe getting caught steeling or something like that would get you fired but not this BS.
The UAW is very strong and will fight for him, IMO he won't be off too long.
 
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Well I worked in the auto industry for almost 40 years and when I retired back in 2004 I was earning about $35 an hour plus COLA.
Union dues are voted on by the members and have been set at 2 hours pay per month for a long long time now.( it was two hours pay when I started back in 1967 and hasn't changed that I know of. , I might be wrong they could have changed it in the last couple of years but I don't think so .
If members feel that is too high they can petition national and bring it up for a vote again.
And the Guy that got fired for yelling at Trump will get his job back . It is hard to get fired and actually lose your job in the auto industry.
maybe getting caught steeling or something like that would get you fired but not this BS.
The UAW is very strong and will fight for him, IMO he won't be off too long.
Above, I was talking about unions in general, not one specific one. I'm not arguing that unions aren't necessary sometimes, but often, not always but often, they do more harm than good to members. That's a big reason that their power, influence, and membership numbers have dropped to all-time lows today. Outside the public sector, unions simply no longer have the clout they once had and that is largely brought on themselves.
 
Above, I was talking about unions in general, not one specific one. I'm not arguing that unions aren't necessary sometimes, but often, not always but often, they do more harm than good to members. That's a big reason that their power, influence, and membership numbers have dropped to all-time lows today. Outside the public sector, unions simply no longer have the clout they once had and that is largely brought on themselves.
Well what does any other union have to do with it?
He is a UAW union member, Everybody that works at Ford HAS to be,
Henry Ford made it a requirement to work at Ford back in the early 1900's. and it still is today.
And as for the numbers falling at Ford most of that is because of automation replacing people.
The plant I worked at at one time had about 8000 people working there and with automation is now down to about 800.
 
Hated in Detroit? Yeah,.....that's probably a VERY GOOD thing. Detroit........the city that literally had a drug trafficker Kwami Kilpatrick elected as mayor sent to PRISON for his role in drug trafficking and a whole slew of other things. Then upon being released from prison ELECTED HIM AGAIN!
How do you know he was elected? Democrat election fraud is pretty bad in Detroit.
 
Well with the massive lay offs of auto workers because of his tariffs no wonder he is hated there.
Detroit doesn't import cars, Tball. No one was laid off due to tariffs.
Auto sales have gone down,
Maybe they should stop building shit cars.
the price of a car has had to go up to cover the extra costs and it all comes back on the auto worker who is trying to make a living,
Extra costs caused by DEMOCRATS.
And his tariffs are effecting a lot of other industries too but the MAGAS can't see that.
MAGA isn't a person, Tball.
Detroit doesn't import cars they manufacture. There is no tariff on domestic manufacturing, Tball.
 
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