Trump Is Up Against a Demographic Time Bomb

WitoldPilecki said:
Libertarianism issues are in my mind worse than Communism.

Including a weak military & weak border security.
Makes Libertarianism easily infiltrate by foreigners.

Other issues include legalization of drugs.

Massive pollution.

Extreme lack of education for the masses.

Extreme economic inequality.

Mininal police thus more crime.

Capitalist monopolies which behave like Communist monopoly.

In cutting corners, creating junk & jacking up prices.
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Yeah you are just insisting on problems you aren't explain why they are faults with libertarianism.

Why is that?
 
StoneByStone said:
All of those things happen due to a lack of regulations. Pollution, for example, happens on a mass scale when corporation waste isn't regulated.
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It happens anyway they just pay off fines it's cheaper then refitting. You wouldn't believe the things people do in the name of production it doesn't matter how many regulations you put on them.
 
RB 60 said:
So you think there's more chance for career advancement (winners?) in a socialistic or communistic government?
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Socialism, where everyone shares the misery...equally...except the Socialist leaders.

See Venezuela, bring food.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
Again I never once said it is about me.

I care about collective society.

I know collectives are a bit much for Indvidualists.

But our Millennial collective is struggling. More because of the actions if Capitalists.
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You millennials are "struggling" because you expect everyone to kiss your ass because you have a college education. You think you can just waltz into a job interview and jump over those who actually know what they are doing. Well, as someone who has experience doing job interviews, that isn't how it works. The "young punks" with their "college education" aren't as knowledgeable as they think they are. I'm a retired machinist. When I entered the workforce, a Hardinge (manual) lathe was a "production" machine. It was (and still is) an incredibly accurate and reasonably fast (with it's 6 turret posts) production machine. It does not, however, hold a candle to the speed of CNCs today.
Yep, a millennial just out of college can write a program for the CNC, some can even set one up using a variety of specific use tooling inserts. BUT, I have not found even one who can set up a Hardinge, much less make (grind by hand) or understand tooling or reasons for different angles. For an example, I shoot pool with a CNC programmer, a young guy (in his mid 20's) who is quite intelligent (he knows a bit more about CNCs than I do), yet while in our conversations he asked me if I knew how to set-up and re-cut a smashed thread on a shaft for his race car (that would cost him over $1000 to have one made) on a manual lathe. He returned the following week and told me he had repaired it.
My point? A college education doesn't give you all the skills you need to become an experienced machinist. Those skills are learned from those of us who have done it, and we are slowly leaving the job market as we age and retire. We boomers aren't as uninformed as you millennials think we are.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
Lmfao.
A lot of Republicans sure blamed Obama for stimulus.
But then do nothing about Trumps bigger stimulus.

You seem highly ignorant if you can't see Trump's wrongs.
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Obama used a stumulus to jump start the economy, Trump;s checks aren't going to jump start anything -they are relief checks
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Soooooo while you think the nation is on the verge of civil war, you won't be participating in it......just like the millions of others who will only "fight" the civil war with "likes" on FaceBook. Awesome.

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WitoldPilecki said:
People can be conjured up to die in Iraq.

Why not here?

I for one despise many here as more of an enemy than Iraq.

Most of the forum seems tp agree.
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you should stock up on food, ammo, guns, and jump into bunker and await further orders..we'll get back to you
 
Arks&sparka said:
Yeah you are just insisting on problems you aren't explain why they are faults with libertarianism.

Why is that?
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Libertarianism is really bad because of no public education.
There for skills are never achieved by the masses.

This is true for much of Africa until recently lacked compulsory education.

Pollution is obvious.
We'd still be burning coal in our houses in a Libertarian society.

Like Poland where coal pollution for that reason is out of control.

The minimized military can crush the nation.
Obviously.

The Libertarian philosophy is basically open borders.

A mix of Capitalist freedom & not wanting to tax for border security.
Make for massive immigration at societies expense.
Like here

Inequalities are also obvious.
Without Disability or healthcare people will be dying in the streets of poverty.

Monopolies are also obvious.
While Corporate monopolies are better than Communist monopolies.

That says little about how similar they behave.
 
RB 60 said:
You millennials are "struggling" because you expect everyone to kiss your ass because you have a college education. You think you can just waltz into a job interview and jump over those who actually know what they are doing. Well, as someone who has experience doing job interviews, that isn't how it works. The "young punks" with their "college education" aren't as knowledgeable as they think they are. I'm a retired machinist. When I entered the workforce, a Hardinge (manual) lathe was a "production" machine. It was (and still is) an incredibly accurate and reasonably fast (with it's 6 turret posts) production machine. It does not, however, hold a candle to the speed of CNCs today.
Yep, a millennial just out of college can write a program for the CNC, some can even set one up using a variety of specific use tooling inserts. BUT, I have not found even one who can set up a Hardinge, much less make (grind by hand) or understand tooling or reasons for different angles. For an example, I shoot pool with a CNC programmer, a young guy (in his mid 20's) who is quite intelligent (he knows a bit more about CNCs than I do), yet while in our conversations he asked me if I knew how to set-up and re-cut a smashed thread on a shaft for his race car (that would cost him over $1000 to have one made) on a manual lathe. He returned the following week and told me he had repaired it.
My point? A college education doesn't give you all the skills you need to become an experienced machinist. Those skills are learned from those of us who have done it, and we are slowly leaving the job market as we age and retire. We boomers aren't as uninformed as you millennials think we are.
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Productivity is way up.
CEO salaries are way up.
Stocks are up.

Wages are down.

The issue clearly lies in Capitalism m

They wanted to collapse the wage market by collapsing unions, hiring illegals, hiring H2B Visas, outsourcing & feminism.
 
RB 60 said:
You millennials are "struggling" because you expect everyone to kiss your ass because you have a college education. You think you can just waltz into a job interview and jump over those who actually know what they are doing. Well, as someone who has experience doing job interviews, that isn't how it works. The "young punks" with their "college education" aren't as knowledgeable as they think they are. I'm a retired machinist. When I entered the workforce, a Hardinge (manual) lathe was a "production" machine. It was (and still is) an incredibly accurate and reasonably fast (with it's 6 turret posts) production machine. It does not, however, hold a candle to the speed of CNCs today.
Yep, a millennial just out of college can write a program for the CNC, some can even set one up using a variety of specific use tooling inserts. BUT, I have not found even one who can set up a Hardinge, much less make (grind by hand) or understand tooling or reasons for different angles. For an example, I shoot pool with a CNC programmer, a young guy (in his mid 20's) who is quite intelligent (he knows a bit more about CNCs than I do), yet while in our conversations he asked me if I knew how to set-up and re-cut a smashed thread on a shaft for his race car (that would cost him over $1000 to have one made) on a manual lathe. He returned the following week and told me he had repaired it.
My point? A college education doesn't give you all the skills you need to become an experienced machinist. Those skills are learned from those of us who have done it, and we are slowly leaving the job market as we age and retire. We boomers aren't as uninformed as you millennials think we are.
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To even bring in a machinist job into the argument proves ignorance.

A.) A ton of Machinist jobs outsourced.
You can go to China, Mexico or Vietnam in many cases if you want ex USA machinist jobs at probably 1/5th the wage.

B.) I know Machinists as friends both are Eastern European immigrants.
They talk about how the majority of machinists are immigrants where they work particularly Eastern Europeans.

C.) I suspect machinists aren't doing as well as before.
My friend made 12.75 an hour working at the plastic factory in Pawling, NY.
 
Arks&sparka said:
It happens anyway they just pay off fines it's cheaper then refitting. You wouldn't believe the things people do in the name of production it doesn't matter how many regulations you put on them.
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That's one of the reasons we need to have programs to redistribute wealth. When the 1% gets too rich, they can pretty much do whatever they want.
And yes, there will always be people who get around the laws, but the point of law isn't to impossibly eliminate all crime, it's too reduce as much crime as possible.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
To even bring in a machinist job into the argument proves ignorance.

A.) A ton of Machinist jobs outsourced.
You can go to China, Mexico or Vietnam in many cases if you want ex USA machinist jobs at probably 1/5th the wage.

B.) I know Machinists as friends both are Eastern European immigrants.
They talk about how the majority of machinists are immigrants where they work particularly Eastern Europeans.

C.) I suspect machinists aren't doing as well as before.
My friend made 12.75 an hour working at the plastic factory in Pawling, NY.
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Ignorance? You haven't a clue what you're babbling about. You don't know shit about machining or the machining industry. Nothing. Absolutely NOTHING!
 
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