Trump launches ‘large-scale’ attack on Venezuela, captures Nicolas Maduro and wife

anonymoose said:
I’m hearing the same thing . No resistance whatsoever. :thinking:
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They are celebrating in Venezuela. I do not know how long it may last, but at this moment in time they are very happy that they are no longer under the tyranny of Madura. Since, as Trump says, we are going to "run" Venezuela for a while, I suspect that this joy will be short lived. Imagine how happy you'd be if some other nation decided we needed "help" like this.
 
Libhater said:
Illegal? Yeah, just as illegal as Maduro indicted for drug trafficking and weapons charges here in the U.S. of A. LOL! BUT I support my Orange Daddy pardoning Hernandez.
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FTFY, dipshit. You should lay off the booze and drugs, son. It's not good for you.
 
Damocles said:
They are celebrating in Venezuela. I do not know how long it may last, but at this moment in time they are very happy that they are no longer under the tyranny of Madura. Since, as Trump says, we are going to "run" Venezuela for a while, I suspect that this joy will be short lived. Imagine how happy you'd be if some other nation decided we needed "help" like this.
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That is mostly propaganda.....you fell for it.
 
Damocles said:
They are celebrating in Venezuela. I do not know how long it may last, but at this moment in time they are very happy that they are no longer under the tyranny of Madura. Since, as Trump says, we are going to "run" Venezuela for a while, I suspect that this joy will be short lived. Imagine how happy you'd be if some other nation decided we needed "help" like this.
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Like when Hitler helped Poland in Sept of '39!
 
Damocles said:
They are celebrating in Venezuela. I do not know how long it may last, but at this moment in time they are very happy that they are no longer under the tyranny of Madura. Since, as Trump says, we are going to "run" Venezuela for a while, I suspect that this joy will be short lived. Imagine how happy you'd be if some other nation decided we needed "help" like this.
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You mean the celebrations we're allowed to see on Trump's state controlled media? LOL

Agreed. They cheered in Baghdad too once Saddam and his sons were taken down. I suspect this will last about as long. Trump indicates the US will be there until all the oil is gone. That means decades of insurgent attacks on Americans. Another Forever War with the MAGAts cheering.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Lawless and desperate is a bad look......and will end badly.
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Its not lawless at all. Desperation comes when a weak leader/president like biden allows for
the narco terrorists to freely enter the U.S. and cause major damage to the livelihoods of the
American people. Trump is securing our border and killing the very narco terrorists that have
been a major menace and current threat to America.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
You mean the celebrations we're allowed to see on Trump's state controlled media? LOL

Agreed. They cheered in Baghdad too once Saddam and his sons were taken down. I suspect this will last about as long. Trump indicates the US will be there until all the oil is gone. That means decades of insurgent attacks on Americans.
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:rolleyes: Trump's "state controlled" media. Geebus... seriously absurd. He's almost invariably in opposition with the media, not in control of it. Absolutely insane.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
You mean the celebrations we're allowed to see on Trump's state controlled media? LOL

Agreed. They cheered in Baghdad too once Saddam and his sons were taken down. I suspect this will last about as long. Trump indicates the US will be there until all the oil is gone. That means decades of insurgent attacks on Americans. Another Forever War with the MAGAts cheering.
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There were are also videos of Venzes celebrating by the masses in Florida knowing that their
leftist terror riden Maduro is now gone from their native country. Hey Dunce, you won't be
seeing those celebrating if you continue to watch/listen to biased-leftist fake news outlets.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Maduro handed out guns to everyone.....leaders who dont have the support of their people dont do that.
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And you think I am the one that fell for propaganda? Hint: Falling for foreign propaganda is no way virtuous and should not be used to bolster your attempt at virtue signaling. Oppose the action, but do not simply believe BS because you dislike the current administration's actions in this matter.

There was strict gun control in Venezuela.

Venezuela implemented one of the strictest civilian gun control regimes in the world starting in 2012 under then-President Hugo Chávez (with Maduro as a key figure in the government). The Control of Arms, Munitions and Disarmament Law banned commercial sales of firearms and ammunition to private citizens, effectively aiming to "disarm all citizens." Only the military, police, and certain government-approved security groups could legally purchase guns from state-controlled sources. Civilian gun ownership became heavily restricted, with new licenses halted and illegal possession punishable by up to 20 years in prison. This policy continued and strengthened under Maduro after he became president in 2013.

Maduro armed specific pro-government loyalists, not the general public. These include:

Colectivos: Armed paramilitary-style civilian groups loyal to the regime, often used to suppress protests and maintain control in neighborhoods.
Bolivarian Militia: A parallel civilian force (claiming millions of members) trained and sometimes equipped by the government.

Reports from various periods (e.g., 2017, 2025) describe distributions of rifles or weapons to public employees, state workers, militias, and colectivos, often framed as defense against alleged foreign invasions or coups. This was selective, it was targeted at supporters to bolster regime security and never a broad handout to all Venezuelans.

The policy disarmed ordinary citizens while selectively arming regime allies, leaving the general population vulnerable (as noted by critics and sources like Fox News and NRA publications). Crime rates, including homicides, rose significantly after the 2012 ban, contrary to its stated goal of reducing violence.

Maduro's actions were the opposite for most Venezuelans: stricter disarmament of civilians combined with arming of loyalist groups. There was no widespread distribution of guns to "everyone."
 
Damocles said:
And you think I am the one that fell for propaganda?

There was strict gun control in Venezuela.

Venezuela implemented one of the strictest civilian gun control regimes in the world starting in 2012 under then-President Hugo Chávez (with Maduro as a key figure in the government). The Control of Arms, Munitions and Disarmament Law banned commercial sales of firearms and ammunition to private citizens, effectively aiming to "disarm all citizens." Only the military, police, and certain government-approved security groups could legally purchase guns from state-controlled sources. Civilian gun ownership became heavily restricted, with new licenses halted and illegal possession punishable by up to 20 years in prison. This policy continued and strengthened under Maduro after he became president in 2013.

Maduro armed specific pro-government loyalists, not the general public. These include:

Colectivos: Armed paramilitary-style civilian groups loyal to the regime, often used to suppress protests and maintain control in neighborhoods.
Bolivarian Militia: A parallel civilian force (claiming millions of members) trained and sometimes equipped by the government.

Reports from various periods (e.g., 2017, 2025) describe distributions of rifles or weapons to public employees, state workers, militias, and colectivos, often framed as defense against alleged foreign invasions or coups. This was selective, it was targeted at supporters to bolster regime security and never a broad handout to all Venezuelans.

The policy disarmed ordinary citizens while selectively arming regime allies, leaving the general population vulnerable (as noted by critics and sources like Fox News and NRA publications). Crime rates, including homicides, rose significantly after the 2012 ban, contrary to its stated goal of reducing violence.

Maduro's actions were the opposite for most Venezuelans: stricter disarmament of civilians combined with arming of loyalist groups. There was no widespread distribution of guns to "everyone."
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Pesky details
 
Damocles said:
Please. These people went from the 3rd richest nation in the Americas to hunting for rats in desperate hunger. They are definitely happy.
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It's been a trend for years. The below is from Google AI. Note first two: over-reliance on oil and cronyism with political appointees in place of experts. Sound familiar? LOL The collapse from there was led to socialist attempts at reforms, but obviously they all failed allowing crooks like Maduro to roll in and take over. Maduro is the MAGAt of Venezuela.

Q: why has venezuela fallen from being rich?

A: Venezuela's fall from being one of Latin America's richest countries is due to a combination of
political mismanagement, economic over-reliance on oil, rampant corruption, and a dismantling of democratic and economic institutions. These issues, spanning the administrations of Hugo Chávez and Nicolás Maduro, led to a severe economic collapse and humanitarian crisis.
Key factors contributing to the decline include:
  • Over-reliance on Oil: Venezuela's economy was heavily dependent on oil exports for revenue, accounting for around 95% of its exports. When global oil prices plummeted in the mid-1980s and again in 2014, the country's main source of income vanished, leaving it unable to pay for essential imports or debt.
  • Mismanagement of the Oil Industry: The state-owned oil company, PDVSA, was systematically mismanaged. The government fired thousands of skilled workers and replaced them with political loyalists, leading to a massive loss of technical expertise. This, combined with a lack of reinvestment, caused oil production to decline steadily from over 3 million barrels per day to a fraction of that amount.
  • Destructive Economic Policies: The Chávez and Maduro governments implemented price controls on thousands of goods and rigid foreign currency controls. These policies distorted the market, led to severe shortages of basic necessities like food and medicine, and made it nearly impossible for private businesses to operate or profit, forcing many to close or leave the country.
  • Nationalization and Expropriation: The government nationalized hundreds of private companies and farms across various sectors, from agriculture to telecommunications. These state-run enterprises often became inefficient and corrupt, leading to a massive decline in domestic production and increased reliance on imports.
  • Hyperinflation and Unsustainable Spending: The government financed massive social spending and fiscal deficits by printing money, which led to one of the worst hyperinflation crises in modern history. This rendered the national currency nearly worthless and destroyed the purchasing power of citizens.
  • Corruption and Lack of Checks and Balances: Billions of dollars in oil revenues were lost to corruption. The concentration of power and dismantling of independent democratic institutions meant there were no checks on the government's economic decisions, allowing disastrous policies to continue unchecked.
  • International Sanctions: While not the primary cause of the initial collapse, U.S. sanctions imposed in recent years have further constrained the country's access to international financial markets and oil export potential, exacerbating the crisis.
These interconnected factors transformed a once-wealthy nation into one facing severe poverty and a massive humanitarian crisis that has driven millions to emigrate.

These articles analyze the systemic issues, from oil dependency to policy failures, that caused Venezuela's economic downfall:
Why did Venezuela's economy collapse?
Sep 23, 2024 — Why did Venezuela's economy collapse? * Before the collapse (1999 to 2013): bad macroeconomic policy. Presidents Hugo ...
Economics Observatory

Socialism: A Case Study on Venezuela - The Policy Circle
Oct 1, 2024 — Socialism: A Case Study on Venezuela. ... In the 1950s, Venezuela was the fourth wealthiest country in the world. Today...
The Policy Circle
 
Another link about the history of Venezuela's history from the 1980s forward:

revista.drclas.harvard.edu

Venezuela in the 1980s, the 1990s and beyond

Venezuela used to be considered a miracle country. Until the early 1980s, it was one of the only four Latin American countries certified by the World Bank as an upper-middle-income economy...
revista.drclas.harvard.edu revista.drclas.harvard.edu

Venezuela in the 1980s, the 1990s and beyond​

Why Citizen-Detached Parties Imperil Economic Governance​

 
Damocles said:
And you think I am the one that fell for propaganda? Hint: Falling for foreign propaganda is no way virtuous and should not be used to bolster your attempt at virtue signaling. Oppose the action, but do not simply believe BS because you dislike the current administration's actions in this matter.

There was strict gun control in Venezuela.

Venezuela implemented one of the strictest civilian gun control regimes in the world starting in 2012 under then-President Hugo Chávez (with Maduro as a key figure in the government). The Control of Arms, Munitions and Disarmament Law banned commercial sales of firearms and ammunition to private citizens, effectively aiming to "disarm all citizens." Only the military, police, and certain government-approved security groups could legally purchase guns from state-controlled sources. Civilian gun ownership became heavily restricted, with new licenses halted and illegal possession punishable by up to 20 years in prison. This policy continued and strengthened under Maduro after he became president in 2013.

Maduro armed specific pro-government loyalists, not the general public. These include:

Colectivos: Armed paramilitary-style civilian groups loyal to the regime, often used to suppress protests and maintain control in neighborhoods.
Bolivarian Militia: A parallel civilian force (claiming millions of members) trained and sometimes equipped by the government.

Reports from various periods (e.g., 2017, 2025) describe distributions of rifles or weapons to public employees, state workers, militias, and colectivos, often framed as defense against alleged foreign invasions or coups. This was selective, it was targeted at supporters to bolster regime security and never a broad handout to all Venezuelans.

The policy disarmed ordinary citizens while selectively arming regime allies, leaving the general population vulnerable (as noted by critics and sources like Fox News and NRA publications). Crime rates, including homicides, rose significantly after the 2012 ban, contrary to its stated goal of reducing violence.

Maduro's actions were the opposite for most Venezuelans: stricter disarmament of civilians combined with arming of loyalist groups. There was no widespread distribution of guns to "everyone."
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Here is empire media admitting that weapons were being passed out in Sep, and the people trained to use them....though they claim that this was only done on a limited basis actually it was very wide:

www.bbc.com

As US-Venezuela tensions rise, Maduro trains civilians for "undeclared war"

Tensions between the two countries have increased after the US Navy targeted boats off the coast of Venezuela.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
 
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