Trump launches ‘large-scale’ attack on Venezuela, captures Nicolas Maduro and wife

Hawkeye10 said:
That is mostly propaganda.....you fell for it.
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Dutch Uncle said:
It's been a trend for years. The below is from Google AI. Note first two: over-reliance on oil and cronyism with political appointees in place of experts. Sound familiar? LOL The collapse from there was led to socialist attempts at reforms, but obviously they all failed allowing crooks like Maduro to roll in and take over. Maduro is the MAGAt of Venezuela.

Q: why has venezuela fallen from being rich?

A: Venezuela's fall from being one of Latin America's richest countries is due to a combination of
political mismanagement, economic over-reliance on oil, rampant corruption, and a dismantling of democratic and economic institutions. These issues, spanning the administrations of Hugo Chávez and Nicolás Maduro, led to a severe economic collapse and humanitarian crisis.
Key factors contributing to the decline include:
  • Over-reliance on Oil: Venezuela's economy was heavily dependent on oil exports for revenue, accounting for around 95% of its exports. When global oil prices plummeted in the mid-1980s and again in 2014, the country's main source of income vanished, leaving it unable to pay for essential imports or debt.
  • Mismanagement of the Oil Industry: The state-owned oil company, PDVSA, was systematically mismanaged. The government fired thousands of skilled workers and replaced them with political loyalists, leading to a massive loss of technical expertise. This, combined with a lack of reinvestment, caused oil production to decline steadily from over 3 million barrels per day to a fraction of that amount.
  • Destructive Economic Policies: The Chávez and Maduro governments implemented price controls on thousands of goods and rigid foreign currency controls. These policies distorted the market, led to severe shortages of basic necessities like food and medicine, and made it nearly impossible for private businesses to operate or profit, forcing many to close or leave the country.
  • Nationalization and Expropriation: The government nationalized hundreds of private companies and farms across various sectors, from agriculture to telecommunications. These state-run enterprises often became inefficient and corrupt, leading to a massive decline in domestic production and increased reliance on imports.
  • Hyperinflation and Unsustainable Spending: The government financed massive social spending and fiscal deficits by printing money, which led to one of the worst hyperinflation crises in modern history. This rendered the national currency nearly worthless and destroyed the purchasing power of citizens.
  • Corruption and Lack of Checks and Balances: Billions of dollars in oil revenues were lost to corruption. The concentration of power and dismantling of independent democratic institutions meant there were no checks on the government's economic decisions, allowing disastrous policies to continue unchecked.
  • International Sanctions: While not the primary cause of the initial collapse, U.S. sanctions imposed in recent years have further constrained the country's access to international financial markets and oil export potential, exacerbating the crisis.
These interconnected factors transformed a once-wealthy nation into one facing severe poverty and a massive humanitarian crisis that has driven millions to emigrate.

These articles analyze the systemic issues, from oil dependency to policy failures, that caused Venezuela's economic downfall:
Why did Venezuela's economy collapse?
Sep 23, 2024 — Why did Venezuela's economy collapse? * Before the collapse (1999 to 2013): bad macroeconomic policy. Presidents Hugo ...
Economics Observatory

Socialism: A Case Study on Venezuela - The Policy Circle
Oct 1, 2024 — Socialism: A Case Study on Venezuela. ... In the 1950s, Venezuela was the fourth wealthiest country in the world. Today...
The Policy Circle
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And none of this changes the truth of what I stated. Neither your absurd attempt to pretend that American Media is in cahoots with the President they regularly and openly oppose, nor the idea that they are somehow happy with becoming a nation scrabbling for food at the dump rather than buying it in a grocery store.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Here is empire media admitting that weapons were being passed out in Sep, and the people trained to use them....though they claim that this was only done on a limited basis actually it was very wide:

www.bbc.com

As US-Venezuela tensions rise, Maduro trains civilians for "undeclared war"

Tensions between the two countries have increased after the US Navy targeted boats off the coast of Venezuela.
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Again, it is not "more virtuous" to fall for foreign propaganda over reality. It's just foolish, really.
 
Libhater said:
There were are also videos of Venzes celebrating by the masses in Florida knowing that their
leftist terror riden Maduro is now gone from their native country. Hey Dunce, you won't be
seeing those celebrating if you continue to watch/listen to biased-leftist fake news outlets.
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No doubt. Thanks for not lying about your support for Trump's pardon of 1/6 terrorists and a drug cartel leader. Maybe you have some honor left in you after all. :thup:
 
Damocles said:
And none of this changes the truth of what I stated. Neither your absurd attempt to pretend that American Media is in cahoots with the President they regularly and openly oppose, nor the idea that they are somehow happy with becoming a nation scrabbling for food at the dump rather than buying it in a grocery store.
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It's history. Background for greater understanding of the issue. I'm surprised you're upset with me backing you up with facts.

The fact you are upset by what was partly a joke steeped in reality with the mergers of major media empires under Friends of Trump is interesting, Damo.
Also interesting is your forgetfulness of this thread and others like it:
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Thread 'CBS says starting today they will be reporting the news more from the average American perspective rather than solely the opinions of liberal elites'

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"Clearly this is a blatantly illegal act"​

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Jeffrey Sachs: U.S. Attacks Venezuela & Kidnaps President Maduro​


"At least what Trump has done is expose the fact that we are at the end of Constitutional rule in the United States".
 
Damocles said:
They are celebrating in Venezuela. I do not know how long it may last, but at this moment in time they are very happy that they are no longer under the tyranny of Madura. Since, as Trump says, we are going to "run" Venezuela for a while, I suspect that this joy will be short lived. Imagine how happy you'd be if some other nation decided we needed "help" like this.
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After reading different news sources, this could be a multipurpose operation.
1. Stop asylum seekers from Venezuela from coming to the u.s.
2. It’s a blow to Russia since Venezuela is one of their client countries
3. It’s a blow to Iran - same thing
4. It reduces cocaine smuggling from Venezuela

If I’m right Trump might be playing 3 dimensional chess.
 
Libhater said:
1/6 terrorists? LMFAO! You might have earned a spot on the jimmy kimmel show
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No worries, Hater. I know you hate the teachings of Jesus and anyone who follows them. Your judgment day is coming, son.

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Hawkeye10 said:

"Clearly this is a blatantly illegal act"​

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Jeffrey Sachs: U.S. Attacks Venezuela & Kidnaps President Maduro​

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If you were indicted for trafficking drugs and fled to another country the US would legally be within its right to arrest you. In fact a girl named Armstrong murdered a female cyclist in Austin Texas and fled to Costa Rica. We went there and arrested her. No real difference. A few years ago the son of the President of Belize was trafficking drugs. He went for a vacation in Costa Rica. We captured him and put him on a C130 to the US. Again no real difference if you are indicted we have the right to bring you to justice.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I only disagree with "Neutral / apolitical civilians." These wouldn't give a shit one way or the other. On the other hand, Trump haters, TDSers, and assorted Leftists reacted with fear, shock, uncertainty because now they faced either siding with Trump--unthinkable--or throwing their support behind a brutal S. American dictator who even though he's a Leftist himself, is seen by everyone else outside their circle as a brutal dictator and piece of shit that amounts to, Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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This was about Venezuelans. Stay on topic, and thank you for your opinion.
 
anonymoose said:
After reading different news sources, this could be a multipurpose operation.
1. Stop asylum seekers from Venezuela from coming to the u.s.
2. It’s a blow to Russia since Venezuela is one of their client countries
3. It’s a blow to Iran - same thing
4. It reduces cocaine smuggling from Venezuela

If I’m right Trump might be playing 3 dimensional chess.
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You are a MAGA neo-con, then.
 
Libhater said:
Its not lawless at all. Desperation comes when a weak leader/president like biden allows for
the narco terrorists to freely enter the U.S. and cause major damage to the livelihoods of the
American people. Trump is securing our border and killing the very narco terrorists that have
been a major menace and current threat to America.
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This is all about Trump and nothing about Biden.

Release the Epstein files.
 
FastLane said:
If you were indicted for trafficking drugs and fled to another country the US would legally be within its right to arrest you. In fact a girl named Armstrong murdered a female cyclist in Austin Texas and fled to Costa Rica. We went there and arrested her. No real difference. A few years ago the son of the President of Belize was trafficking drugs. He went for a vacation in Costa Rica. We captured him and put him on a C130 to the US. Again no real difference if you are indicted we have the right to bring you to justice.
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Juan Orlando Hernández Pardon: Implications for U.S. Foreign Policy - WOLA

Trump pardoned ex-Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernández despite his 45-year sentence for drug trafficking. What this means for justice and accountability.
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During the presidency of Juan Orlando Hernández (JOH, 2014–2022), Honduras was known for large-scale drug trafficking and corruption, as well as for its severe human rights violations, especially targeting defenders of land, environment, and journalists. On November 28, 2025, President Donald Trump announced on social media that he would issue a “full and complete pardon” to Hernández, an announcement that immediately raised serious concerns given the gravity of Hernández’s convictions. Just three days later, on December 1, Trump formally granted the pardon, and Hernández was released that day. This abrupt reversal came despite Hernández’s 45-year sentence, issued in June 2024 after a U.S. federal jury found him guilty of conspiring to import cocaine into the United States and committing related firearms offenses.
truthsocial.com

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)

If Tito Asfura wins for President of Honduras, because the United States has so much confidence in him, his Policies, and what he will do for the Great People of Honduras, we will be very supportive. If he doesn’t win, the United States will not be throwing good money after bad, because a wrong...
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FastLane said:
Yeah Trump has done it again. He has made the left support a Dictator that stole an entire country and started exporting death to America.
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When I did not support Bush’s actions in Iraq, I can’t tell you how many times you fools accused me to supporting Saddam Hussein, typical Trumpper/neocon argument!
 
anonymoose said:
After reading different news sources, this could be a multipurpose operation.
1. Stop asylum seekers from Venezuela from coming to the u.s.
2. It’s a blow to Russia since Venezuela is one of their client countries
3. It’s a blow to Iran - same thing
4. It reduces cocaine smuggling from Venezuela

If I’m right Trump might be playing 3 dimensional chess.
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He does surprisingly well at that kind of thing.
 
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