Trump planning to lift Biden's LNG pause, increase oil drilling during 1st days in office: report

Kurmugeon said:
It will help and is the correct thing to do.

However, the fossil fuel era is coming to a close. We will use all of the available oil, coal, and natural gas.

Before the infrastructure from the fossil fuel era is gone, we need to use that foundation to build its replacement.

I think that means a series of Thorium-Ion power plants, with modern transmission lines to the high electric usage areas, but also, liquid aire production plants, and synthetic hydrocarbon fuel / lubricant / plastic plants, using atmospheric CO2, close coupled to the nuclear power plants.

All of this has to be built while we still have the plastics, steel, mortar, and semiconductors provided by the Fossil Fuel Era.

Building the sustainable infrastructure will take some 40 years, if we work swiftly and stay focused. Must longer if we get distracted by stupid things like huge arrays of less than unity energy gain solar voltaic panels.

We don't have 40 years left of clean Fossil Fuels, and part of the build up of the sustainable system will need to be done burning the dregs of the available fossil fuels, stuff high in sulfur and nitrates, that will do much damage, before the new systems can begin to take the place of the fossil fuels infrastructure.

The Thorium-Ion is an okay approach, but in time, He3 fusion, and eventually D-T fusion will become practical. Maybe 20 years for He3, and 60 years on for D-T fusion.

Yes, drilling and harvesting the fossil fuels is a good thing.

But not building a long term replacement, while we still can, would be asinine!

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i think oil is renewable.


it formed before.

why won't more form again?
 
Lao Tse said:
i think oil is renewable.


it formed before.

why won't more form again?
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Its an issue of time compression.

After some clever advertising, some people really think that oil comes from Dinos.

Well, geology will show, no, it comes from the era before, when most of the earth was shallow warm seas filled with algae. The bottom sludge from millennia turned into the coal, oil and natural gas we are using today.

But that's just the problem, we are taking 20 million years of hydrocarbon stored energy from the algae, and consuming it in just one year!

Sure, more is being made, but not at near the rate we are consuming it.

In a few decades, it will be all gone.

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Kurmugeon said:
Its the only real option. You could blanket the entire surface of the planet with wind turbines and solar arrays, and it would not be near enough energy.
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This is true. Wind and solar energy are piddle power. They are by far the most expensive methods of generating electrical power, watt for watt.
Wind turbines also only produce power during a narrow range of wind speeds. Solar power does not work at night.
Kurmugeon said:
The second piece of the puzzle, is Transport energy storage. Two good options, than I've seen anyway:
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There really is no puzzle. People have been shipping coal and oil products for quite some time.
Kurmugeon said:
1] Liquid Aire
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Requires special trucks with appropriate refrigeration equipment.
Kurmugeon said:
2] Use nuclear power, and molecular sieves, compressors, and chillers, to take atmospheric CO2, electrolysis it, catalytically combine the now free carbon with Hydrogen from Water, and you have methane.
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See the Fischer-Tropsche process. Also, methane is available by drilling, landfills, or your nearest swamp.
Kurmugeon said:
Use classic petro-refinery cracking and combining plant tech to combine the Methane into butane, then pentane, all the way up the chain to gasoline, diesel or AvGas.
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Already done.
Kurmugeon said:
Synthetic Fuel from nuclear power.
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Waste of power.
Kurmugeon said:
I've got a working mock-up of a machine to do just that in my garage.
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You have a nuclear reactor in your GARAGE???
Kurmugeon said:
It has made a whole two drops of gasoline. And for now, very inefficiently (though I know a dozen ways to fix that).

If you're worried about CO2 as a green house gas... well, its carbon neutral.
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CO2 is not carbon.
Kurmugeon said:
What goes out the car's exhaust this week, is back in the fuel tank next week. Round and round, just an energy storage system. No new carbon added.
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Already happens naturally. No reactor needed.
Kurmugeon said:
The Future for Humanity is bright and happy, we just need to embrace it.

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Already there. Get a life and enjoy it!
 
Kurmugeon said:
Its an issue of time compression.
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Kurmugeon said:
After some clever advertising, some people really think that oil comes from Dinos.
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It doesn't.
Kurmugeon said:
Well, geology will show, no, it comes from the era before, when most of the earth was shallow warm seas filled with algae. The bottom sludge from millennia turned into the coal, oil and natural gas we are using today.
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Nope. Hydrocarbons are continuously produced by the Earth. All you have to do is drill for it.
Kurmugeon said:
But that's just the problem, we are taking 20 million years of hydrocarbon stored energy from the algae, and consuming it in just one year!
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It takes mere minutes to synthesize hydrocarbons using processes naturally occurring in Earth.
Kurmugeon said:
Sure, more is being made, but not at near the rate we are consuming it.
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Dead wrong. More is being made than we can possibly consume.
Kurmugeon said:
In a few decades, it will be all gone.

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Nope. Oil and natural gas are renewable fuels.
There is also plenty of coal. It's cheap and plentiful.
 
Kurmugeon said:
Its an issue of time compression.

After some clever advertising, some people really think that oil comes from Dinos.

Well, geology will show, no, it comes from the era before, when most of the earth was shallow warm seas filled with algae. The bottom sludge from millennia turned into the coal, oil and natural gas we are using today.

But that's just the problem, we are taking 20 million years of hydrocarbon stored energy from the algae, and consuming it in just one year!

Sure, more is being made, but not at near the rate we are consuming it.

In a few decades, it will be all gone.

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i don't think so.

I think you're part of the ongoing smear campaign.

drill baby drill.

green energy is for fags.
 
Lao Tse said:
i don't think so.

I think you're part of the ongoing smear campaign.

drill baby drill.

green energy is for fags.
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Time will tell... some of us with a bit of education, see the coming problem.

If you wait until the fossil fuel infrastructure is all gone, where do you get the plastics, copper-wire, Steel, Semiconductors, and Lasers to build the replacement?

And it will take 40+ years to build the replacement system.

That's not Green Energy, that's just science and common sense.

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Kurmugeon said:
Time will tell... some of us with a bit of education, see the coming problem.

If you wait until the fossil fuel infrastructure is all gone, where do you get the plastics, copper-wire, Steel, Semiconductors, and Lasers to build the replacement?

And it will take 40+ years to build the replacement system.

That's not Green Energy, that's just science and common sense.

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you've been lying about oil for 100 years.

America calls bullshit.

there's no problem.

your other system is vaporware, to steal a term from 90's software sales.
 
Into the Night said:
Several nations in Europe are going back to coal.
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In Germany, wood pellet stoves are popular for home heating since electricity is far too expensive and inefficient, and coal and increasingly natural gas are not an option. They're cutting down huge swaths of forest in Europe and the US to feed Germany's market for wood pellets.

www.texasobserver.org

TCEQ is Finally Doing Something About an East Texas Polluter

After years of inaction, the state environmental agency is poised to force German Pellets to install pollution controls at its Woodville processing plant.
www.texasobserver.org www.texasobserver.org


 
T. A. Gardner said:
In Germany, wood pellet stoves are popular for home heating since electricity is far too expensive and inefficient, and coal and increasingly natural gas are not an option. They're cutting down huge swaths of forest in Europe and the US to feed Germany's market for wood pellets.

www.texasobserver.org

TCEQ is Finally Doing Something About an East Texas Polluter

After years of inaction, the state environmental agency is poised to force German Pellets to install pollution controls at its Woodville processing plant.
www.texasobserver.org www.texasobserver.org


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Thorium Ion power plants could solve that.

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T. A. Gardner said:
Germany ridded themselves--idiotically--of all their nuclear power plants. For the environmental Left, nuclear is evil.
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Rickover Pile type of plants are silly dangerous. HM Ion plants are not. There is only one days heavy metal fuel in the reactor on any given day, around 20 grams. Ion plants work on entirely different principles.

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Kurmugeon said:
Rickover Pile type of plants are silly dangerous. HM Ion plants are not. There is only one days heavy metal fuel in the reactor on any given day, around 20 grams. Ion plants work on entirely different principles.

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Nope. Same principle. Nuclear fission. ANY type of power plant can be dangerous.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I have no idea what a "Rickover Pile type plant" is. I have never heard that term, and I'm a retired Navy nuke.
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Hyman Rickover developed nuclear power for the US Navy. A modified form is used to generate power in a typical nuclear power plant. Both are based on U-235 fission. The fuel pellets are not very pure and are incapable of a nuclear explosion (although a steam explosion can occur, just like any power plant!). Power plants use even less pure U-235 than the Navy does.

Like I said, he's just quoting shit from various web pages.

Thorium reactors are still in the experimental stage, although one is producing commercial power. U-233 is produced in this nuclear reaction as a waste product. These reactors produce considerably less energy, so you have to use more fuel for them. This fuel, like U-235, is NOT renewable and must be specially prepared for use in a nuclear reactor.

A U-235 plant can't 'run away' a reaction. The fuel simply isn't good enough.
 
Into the Night said:
Hyman Rickover developed nuclear power for the US Navy. A modified form is used to generate power in a typical nuclear power plant. Both are based on U-235 fission. The fuel pellets are not very pure and are incapable of a nuclear explosion (although a steam explosion can occur, just like any power plant!). Power plants use even less pure U-235 than the Navy does.

Like I said, he's just quoting shit from various web pages.

Thorium reactors are still in the experimental stage, although one is producing commercial power. U-233 is produced in this nuclear reaction as a waste product. These reactors produce considerably less energy, so you have to use more fuel for them. This fuel, like U-235, is NOT renewable and must be specially prepared for use in a nuclear reactor.

A U-235 plant can't 'run away' a reaction. The fuel simply isn't good enough.
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Actually, GE and Westinghouse (I can toss Combusting Engineering in for exactly 1 design) designed and built the Navy's reactors. What Rickover did was make the general specifications based on what the Navy needed. The three I had to damn near memorize down to the last nut and bolt were the S5W, S5G, and A1W.
 
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