Trump promises to block $14.9 billion U.S. Steel deal, leaving Pennsylvania steelworkers feeling betrayed and maybe a little gullible

I'll ask you the same question, where did he say that?

This is from one of the articles:

In a statement Tuesday, the union said the deal carries “serious long-term implications for U.S. economic and national security.”

“It’s clear that President Trump understands the vital role a strong domestic steel industry plays in our national security, as well as the importance of the jobs and communities the industry supports,” the union said.


All the articles Christi posted shows the union workers as against the deal. So how did he try to get union votes by saying he was FOR the deal?
trump made this promise to help the steel industry the last time around and it never happened.

"Pennsylvania’s steel industry has struggled since the early 1980s when the collapse devastated mill towns across the state, especially in western Pennsylvania. Many of those towns have never recovered and still suffer from bleak downtowns with boarded-up buildings and empty storefronts. Plenty of current and former steelworkers flocked to Trump, who promised the industry’s rebirth.

“We’re going to bring back your jobs to Pennsylvania,” Trump said to a crowd in Ambridge, Beaver County, in October 2016. “We’re going to bring back steel. Your steel has been stolen from you in this area.”

 
This is such a weird thread. The WSJ has supported this deal (as do I) and has called out Trump for being against it. Notice the first sentence of the column "Donald Trump last week doubled down on his campaign promise to block Nippon Steel’s proposed $15 billion takeover of U.S. Steel."

Not a single person, while claiming otherwise, has posted anything showing him supporting it.



Biden’s Moment of Truth on U.S. Steel

He can approve a Nippon Steel offer that is in the U.S. interest.


Donald Trump last week doubled down on his campaign promise to block Nippon Steel’s proposed $15 billion takeover of U.S. Steel. But the ball is in President Biden’s court with the shot-clock ticking, and approving the deal during his final days would be a national service.

 
  • Like
Reactions: TOP
trump made this promise to help the steel industry the last time around and it never happened.

"Pennsylvania’s steel industry has struggled since the early 1980s when the collapse devastated mill towns across the state, especially in western Pennsylvania. Many of those towns have never recovered and still suffer from bleak downtowns with boarded-up buildings and empty storefronts. Plenty of current and former steelworkers flocked to Trump, who promised the industry’s rebirth.

“We’re going to bring back your jobs to Pennsylvania,” Trump said to a crowd in Ambridge, Beaver County, in October 2016. “We’re going to bring back steel. Your steel has been stolen from you in this area.”

This thread is about the U.S. Steel deal. The 'article' in the OP is claiming he said he was for it because union members are for it, and is now turning his back on that promise. Except everything you and others have posted shows he has always been against the deal as are the union members themselves.

No disrespect but it's a case of you guys saw a headline you thought made Trump and his supporters look bad so you got all excited, except it's some fake news article and no one looked past the headline. (this happens to people on the right as well, no one has a monopoly on this)
 
  • Like
Reactions: TOP
While initially skeptical, several local union leaders have expressed support for the deal after meeting with Nippon representatives in October, who promised to invest $1 billion into the iconic steel capital in western Pennsylvania.

Local 2227 President Jack Maskil was among a group of local union leaders who have been lobbying for the sale. He says he believes the majority of Mon Valley workers now support the deal, including 95% of the employees he represents at the Irvin Steel Works.

Zugai said he was a Trump supporter who helped organize trips of steel workers to Trump rallies. He even met with Trump one-on-one and said the president-elect had promised to take another look at the Nippon deal based on the support of the workers.

Other local leaders have expressed frustration that neither Trump nor members of congress have come up with a plan to provide needed financial investment in the Mon Valley if the Nippon deal is blocked.

 
While initially skeptical, several local union leaders have expressed support for the deal after meeting with Nippon representatives in October, who promised to invest $1 billion into the iconic steel capital in western Pennsylvania.

Local 2227 President Jack Maskil was among a group of local union leaders who have been lobbying for the sale. He says he believes the majority of Mon Valley workers now support the deal, including 95% of the employees he represents at the Irvin Steel Works.

Zugai said he was a Trump supporter who helped organize trips of steel workers to Trump rallies. He even met with Trump one-on-one and said the president-elect had promised to take another look at the Nippon deal based on the support of the workers.

Other local leaders have expressed frustration that neither Trump nor members of congress have come up with a plan to provide needed financial investment in the Mon Valley if the Nippon deal is blocked.

My first thought was Biden said he would be the most pro union President ever, so if the unions are for this why is he against it? And while Harris never made that same claim, she was clearly pro-union so why did she come out against the sale?

But all the articles christi posted stated the unions were against the sale. So has there been a switch of heart? Or is the union referenced above a small (or big) one?
 
  • Like
Reactions: TOP
This thread is about the U.S. Steel deal. The 'article' in the OP is claiming he said he was for it because union members are for it, and is now turning his back on that promise. Except everything you and others have posted shows he has always been against the deal as are the union members themselves.

No disrespect but it's a case of you guys saw a headline you thought made Trump and his supporters look bad so you got all excited, except it's some fake news article and no one looked past the headline. (this happens to people on the right as well, no one has a monopoly on this)
Why do you keep saying it was a fake article? Some of the steelworkers are feeling betrayed.

"Following Trump's statement, Jason Zugai, the vice president of the United Steelworkers Local 2227 branch in West Mifflin, southeast of Pittsburgh, said: "For me, yeah, very frustrated with the news that came out last night. I didn't expect that to come out, so that was like a gut punch."

"Some U.S. Steel workers would prefer Nippon Steel acquire the company, given that it appears to have a better financial balance sheet than another potential buyer, Cleveland-Cliffs."
 
Not to belabor the point but since you're a straight shooter I'm just trying to understand this here. I've followed this deal from a distance for the past year as the WSJ has written quite a bit about it and lamented that both Biden and Trump (and ultimately) Harris were against the deal and why blocking it will be harmful to the country and to people's jobs.

But a thread like doesn't address the deal. The source is some new media company based in India that no one has heard of and could be a satire/fake news site. Yep people were so enthralled with the narrative and wanted to jump on it that it didn't matter.

I guess this is what we've come to?

Yes, it's what we've come to.

But I appreciate the correction. I just glanced at the OP when I responded, and I haven't researched your response - but I'll take your word for it on that. I wasn't that invested in the story of the OP.

But, I do think the sentiment is & will be fairly accurate. I've seen a lot of exit & other interviews w/ voters on why they voted Trump. I think many will end up disappointed, at minimum. If this OP is a false narrative, it's only for this specific situation.
 
Why do you keep saying it was a fake article? Some of the steelworkers are feeling betrayed.

"Following Trump's statement, Jason Zugai, the vice president of the United Steelworkers Local 2227 branch in West Mifflin, southeast of Pittsburgh, said: "For me, yeah, very frustrated with the news that came out last night. I didn't expect that to come out, so that was like a gut punch."

"Some U.S. Steel workers would prefer Nippon Steel acquire the company, given that it appears to have a better financial balance sheet than another potential buyer, Cleveland-Cliffs."
The most recent article by the OP from the MSN was the first I saw that actually addresses that some workers are upset. It said Trump said he would 'consider' the deal. If I heard that I might hold out of hope but based upon the anti-deal rhetoric all along you know that going in.

But he has campaigned from the start being against it. And I suppose all this is mute if Biden is going to stop the deal before he leaves office.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TOP
Why do you keep saying it was a fake article? Some of the steelworkers are feeling betrayed.

"Following Trump's statement, Jason Zugai, the vice president of the United Steelworkers Local 2227 branch in West Mifflin, southeast of Pittsburgh, said: "For me, yeah, very frustrated with the news that came out last night. I didn't expect that to come out, so that was like a gut punch."

"Some U.S. Steel workers would prefer Nippon Steel acquire the company, given that it appears to have a better financial balance sheet than another potential buyer, Cleveland-Cliffs."
Since you're in state, the political actors aside, what's your take on the deal? Do you think it should go through or do you buy the national security concerns people are making to justify blocking it?
 
  • Like
Reactions: TOP
Since you're in state, the political actors aside, what's your take on the deal? Do you think it should go through or do you buy the national security concerns people are making to justify blocking it?
Right now I can't answer because I haven't followed this in depth, only read the headlines. I do know that trump's 2016 campaign promises about bringing back steel and coal to the state didn't pan out.
 
This thread is about the U.S. Steel deal. The 'article' in the OP is claiming he said he was for it because union members are for it, and is now turning his back on that promise. Except everything you and others have posted shows he has always been against the deal as are the union members themselves.

No disrespect but it's a case of you guys saw a headline you thought made Trump and his supporters look bad so you got all excited, except it's some fake news article and no one looked past the headline. (this happens to people on the right as well, no one has a monopoly on this)
wtf? are you retarded or is it me?
:tardthoughts:
 
The most recent article by the OP from the MSN was the first I saw that actually addresses that some workers are upset. It said Trump said he would 'consider' the deal. If I heard that I might hold out of hope but based upon the anti-deal rhetoric all along you know that going in.

But he has campaigned from the start being against it. And I suppose all this is mute if Biden is going to stop the deal before he leaves office.
I think it's moot, deafo
 
Right now I can't answer because I haven't followed this in depth, only read the headlines. I do know that trump's 2016 campaign promises about bringing back steel and coal to the state didn't pan out.
This is from your local paper. There seems to be a change of heart, at least among some union workers, as the articles you posted previously all stated the workers were against it.

I want the deal to go through but with both Biden and Trump against it, doesn't look good for that happening.


U.S. Steel workers rally for Nippon Steel deal as executive speaks in Gary

Post-election support comes as Biden, Trump, USW continue to oppose

Hundreds of steelworkers braved freezing temperatures to rally Thursday afternoon for the imperiled $15 billion takeover of U.S. Steel by Nippon Steel as President Joe Biden and President-elect Donald Trump continue to oppose the sale.

Speakers described the Japanese investment as crucial to the future of Mon Valley Works facilities and urged federal officials and United Steelworkers President David McCall to visit the plants and speak with impacted workers.

“Without this deal with Nippon Steel, we will be the last generation to work here at this historic steel plant,” said Brian Pavlack, a third-generation steelworker and member of the USW local in Clairton.

“I also want to call out Senator [John] Fetterman for not backing the sale. You go on national television and you say you're with the steelworkers and live across the street from the [Edgar Thomson] plant. I'm telling you now, Mr. Fetterman, 90% or more of the steelworkers are for the sale.”

Mr. Fetterman could not immediately be reached for comment.

Concurrent rallies took place at U.S. Steel facilities in Indiana, Minnesota and Alabama.

The event in Clairton drew greater union support than a September rally in Downtown Pittsburgh, though not all union leaders were willing to break ranks from Mr. McCall. William Farrior, president of the USW local in Clairton, who other workers said opposes the sale, was notably absent.

In a statement, U.S. Steel CEO David Burritt — who was not at the rally — described Nippon’s acquisition as “the only scenario where significant investments would occur across the unionized, integrated facilities, including in Mon Valley Works.”

“We need to get the deal done,” he said.

Regulators have been reviewing the sale for nearly a year, with a verdict finally expected by Christmas. The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States could also allow the parties to refile, pushing a decision on the deal’s national security risk to the final days of Mr. Biden’s presidency, or to the next administration.

The panel is concerned about “potential decisions by Nippon Steel that could lead to a reduction in domestic steel production capacity,” according to a letter sent to Nippon in August that was obtained by Reuters and Bloomberg News.


Both Mr. Biden and Trump have signaled fresh opposition to the deal in recent days, while Nippon Steel leads an all-out blitz to change their minds.

The Japanese steelmaker put fresh commitments in writing this week and promised $5,000 payouts to almost every U.S. Steel employee if the deal goes through. But the moves only seemed to anger union leaders like Mr. McCall, who called the payments “simple bribery.”

Andy Macey, a maintenance technician in Clairton, pushed back against that claim Thursday, saying the money was instead “an investment for our future.”

Local mayors and other elected officials talked about the transformative potential of Nippon’s planned $2.7 billion investment and expressed anxiety about a potential presidential block.

“Time is running out,” Clairton mayor Richard Littanzi said. “Speak to your family, your friends, relatives, co-workers, and say, ‘Hey, listen, we have got to get this deal done. If not, the Mon Valley is dead.’”

Some of the strongest criticism was reserved for Mr. McCall, who has not budged from his opposition to the deal since it was announced last December.

“I'm frustrated that one man seems to stand in the way of this,” said Allegheny County Councilman Sam DeMarco. He described Mr. McCall as “a guy who refuses to negotiate and seems more intent on doing the bidding of a competitor than the bidding of you, the members he purports to represent.”

North Braddock Mayor Cletus Lee underscored the point, saying: “Dave McCall, get your head out of your ass.”

The USW did not respond to a request for comment.

Also on Thursday, Nippon Steel vice chairman Takahiro Mori spoke in Gary, Ind., alongside mayor Eddie Melton. The Japanese steelmaker had previously pledged $300 million to modernize the U.S. Steel operation there. Some environmental groups oppose the plan in Gary, saying it would extend reliance on coal.

A group called Industrious Labs alleged in an October report that U.S. Steel facilities, including blast furnaces and coke plants, account for up to 200 premature deaths and over 55,000 asthma symptoms each year.

U.S. Steel said it is “still reviewing the information” in the study.

“We do know that the study fails to mention the thousands of U.S. Steel employees who work each day to ensure their role in the steelmaking process is done in the most environmentally responsible manner possible,” the company said. “Thanks to their work, U. S. Steel remains on track to meet its ambitions greenhouse gas emissions reductions goals.”


 
Right now I can't answer because I haven't followed this in depth, only read the headlines. I do know that trump's 2016 campaign promises about bringing back steel and coal to the state didn't pan out.


As usual, you know nothing beyond "orange man bad". :nodyes:
 
Back
Top