Trump to pardon Benedict Arnold?

I am starting to think these controversial pardons are a distraction from the Barr / dictating justice debacle.

What a great way to upend the news cycle.
 
Poor lefties upset Trump is using his powers as President

Soon we will see Op Ed’s and threads asking if the power to pardon is “outdated” and “whether the power should rest with one person”

I wouldn’t be surprised to see some left wing twit start legislation to “limit the power to pardon”

Idiots

You mean abusing
 
"He never got a tria!, not many people know that. It was a witch hunt!"

Also in line for pardons are John Wilkes Booth ("The Deep Confederacy set him up - he thought he was shooting Jeff Davis!") and Jack the Ripper ("First I gotta figure out who he was, could take me a couple of hours, then make him a posthumorous citizen. Unless he was American, I guess.")

More news of swamp draining ...

https://www.foxnews.com/media/andy-mccarthy-trump-pardons-kerik-blagojevich

Its good to be THE KING.....Trump will pardon who he wishes. As BHO declared, "Elections have consequences". :cool: Trump the thug life. This is what the US needed...a MOB BOSS and a ROUGE AG that could give a rats ass what people think. He was brought out of retirement for a reason. Holder might have been the Black Marxist's wingman.....but Barr is Trump's hatchet man enforcer. Just like OBAMA.....the law is what Trump says it is.....until you remove him. The problem you face? You have no power. You have a corrupt press that has been shredded in front of the American Voter.

Propaganda can never defeat documented "signed" evidences of fact. Someone had to sign off on the FISA SPYGATE....there is a paper trail that a blind person could follow....why? Trump was never expected to win...he was and remains UNDERESTIMATED.....this was supposed to be brushed under the political rug by the Clinton Machine.

I'd wager that you could not drive a 10 penny nail up a Biden asshole about right now. :bigthink: Apparently that INSURANCE POLICY does not pay off where fraud is involved.

There is no step 5 in this attempted coup d'état. Game over, let the water boarding begin.
 
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Its good to be THE KING.....Trump will pardon who he wishes. As BHO declared, "Elections have consequences". :cool: Trump the thug life. This is what the US needed...a MOB BOSS and a ROUGHE AG that could give a rats ass what people think. He was brought out of retirement for a reason. Holder might have been the Black Marxist's wingman.....but Barr is Trump's hatchet man enforcer. Just like OBAMA.....the law is what Trump says it is.....until you remove him. The problem you face? You have no power. You have a corrupt press that has been shredded in front of the American Voter.

Propaganda can never defeat documented "signed" evidences of fact. Someone had to sign off on the FISA SPYGATE....there is a paper trail that a blind person could follow....why? Trump was never expected to win...he was and remains UNDERESTIMATED.....this was supposed to be brushed under the political rug by the Clinton Machine.

I'd wager that you could not drive a 10 penny nail up a Biden asshole about right now. :bigthink:

What is underestimated, I think, is how totally disaffected the poor and ignorant have become everywhere. It is class conflict reduced to suicidal sabotage, because people are not allowed to know of any serious alternative.
 
What is underestimated, I think, is how totally disaffected the poor and ignorant have become everywhere. It is class conflict reduced to suicidal sabotage, because people are not allowed to know of any serious alternative.

Yeah......THE PEOPLE spoke loud and clear with an Electoral College landslide in 2016.....as over 63 million citizens appointed TRUMP to clean house in DC, its estimated that number will be well over 65 Million in 2020. The poor and ignorant also have a voice thanks to the logistics of living in a Representative Constitutional Republic that allows even the small voices to be heard over the loud mouthed voice of the criminal elitists. Until the Constitution is done away...….it takes the voice of the people to appointee a President of the United States, not a committee of self righteous leftists. The deep state has lost the power of the press as its corruptness has been exposed....the curtain drawn back. The PEOPLE will never be put back to sleep....the press will no longer hold the power to appoint politicians of their choosing.

There is a new information highway....the truth can be found just a thumb click away. :bigthink: Mr. and Mrs. Anonymous, made up yellow journalism, with no actual source demonstrable, no longer hold a bullhorn in their mouth.
 
Yeah......THE PEOPLE spoke loud and clear with an Electoral College landslide in 2016.....as over 63 million citizens appointed TRUMP to clean house in DC, its estimated that number will be well over 65 Million in 2020. The poor and ignorant also have a voice thanks to the logistics of living in a Representative Constitutional Republic that allows even the small voices to be heard over the loud mouthed voice of the criminal elitists. Until the Constitution is done away...….it takes the voice of the people to appointee a President of the United States, not a committee of self righteous leftists. The deep state has lost the power of the press as its corruptness has been exposed....the curtain drawn back. The PEOPLE will never be put back to sleep....the press will no longer hold the power to appoint politicians of their choosing.

There is a new information highway....the truth can be found just a thumb click away. :bigthink: Mr. and Mrs. Anonymous no longer have a bullhorn to sway public opinion.

To elect a senile bully is hardly helping the mugs much, is it - and don't tell me he controls capitalism: nobody does.
 
To elect a senile bully is hardly helping the mugs much, is it - and don't tell me he controls capitalism: nobody does.

A strawman argument from a leftist? Who'd a thunk it? :dunno: Just WHO THE HELL is arguing about capitalism? Why deflect with an argument that was never tabled? Its an indoctrinated trait of all leftists. When you can't defend one argument with any logical and reasoned response....its time to SAVE THE FACE IN THE MIRROR with another argument never tabled in the first place.

Since you started this strawman ablaze......its FREEDOM that controls all aspects of capitalism. Capitalism can only work where liberty exists. Socialism can only exist where liberty is retarded. No one forces anyone to purchase anything in a free market. People freely choose to purchase services and products that make their lives better....if that service or product does not work, the people freely choose to stop purchasing a product or service that does not work.....unlike products such as Obama Care that are forced upon everyone via the power of the state under threat of fine and or imprisonment.

Socialism and liberty cannot co-exist. Charity is not a state issue......charity comes from the heart of the individual....freely, without thought of recompense. Its not charity when you are forced to support your neighbor who is a healthy well bodied person that simply refuses to engage in the economic system. 10% is Good enough for God....its good enough for Government charity. There should be a 10% cap on all taxes.
 
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There is a new information highway....the truth can be found just a thumb click away.

A lot of lies can be found there, too; and the folks you are talking about often can't tell the difference. That's the fundamental reason why many were taken in by a lying ignoramus who promised to "drain the swamp" and instead is making his own.

America does not need a "mob boss". It needs a President who is public-spirited, competent and relatively honest. It hasn't got one by a hell of a long way.

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Compared to those qualities, left/right is a secondary issue to most people who are not ideologues.
 
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"He never got a tria!, not many people know that. It was a witch hunt!"

Also in line for pardons are John Wilkes Booth ("The Deep Confederacy set him up - he thought he was shooting Jeff Davis!") and Jack the Ripper ("First I gotta figure out who he was, could take me a couple of hours, then make him a posthumorous citizen. Unless he was American, I guess.")

More news of swamp draining ...

https://www.foxnews.com/media/andy-mccarthy-trump-pardons-kerik-blagojevich

and Timmy McViegh
 
A lot of lies can be found there, too; and the folks you are talking about often can't tell the difference. That's the fundamental reason why many were taken in by a lying ignoramus who promised to "drain the swamp" and instead is making his own.

America does not need a "mob boss". It needs a President who is public-spirited, competent and relatively honest. It hasn't got one by a hell of a long way.

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Compared to those qualities, left/right is a secondary issue to most people who are not ideologues.

Another strawman? :palm: Now you are arguing that "you" and other SMARTER THAN OTHERS must help the masses decide what it true and what is not?

That's why TRUMP was elected in the first place, that's why people have gone to the web for their news.....its THEY THAT GET TO DECIDE WHAT IS TRUE AND WHAT IS NOT....they are tired of smart asses telling them what to believe and what not to believe. Freedom exists only when one is allowed CRTITICAL INDEPENDENT THOUGHT. No one needs a propagandist TALKING HEAD to make the NEWS itself....the news. Its easy enough to simply go to the source of any supposed news story, without some elitist telling you what you are viewing instead of just presenting the actual news.

You want to know the truth about JOBS and the real state of the economic UNION? Go directly to the source.....THE US GOVERNMENT, not CNN, NBC, or a opinionated web site such as this.

Do you assume that "I" simply come here to argue? No....before I retort to anyone...…..I KNOW THE FACTS, I KNOW WHERE THOSE FACTS CAN BE DOCUMENTED...that's exactly why PROGAGANDA cannot defeat TRUTH.....propaganda can only be subjectively SUGGESTED void of any documentation (or at best....fake charts and speed sheets that omit important vital stats in order to direct attention to a certain view point.

The truth can only be determined when all the evidence is weighed and measured. Propaganda is bullshit talk....and strawman arguments....nothing else. :bigthink:

An example of propaganda vs. TRUTH? The left and especially Obama is suggesting that the economy is only "vibrant" and growing with average higher low to middle income wages (wages have grown by 3% under Trump)….because HE spent over 800 Billion US TAXPAYER DOLLARS on a plan to stimulate the economy.

Easy enough to prove IF TRUE. Just document in detail where every dollar of that 800 Billion stimulus went.....SHOW every JOB on main st. created by that money.

Present the accountability audit...down to the penny of just where that money went.


I will wait for you to go the government sources and DOCUMENT that expenditure and how it created all these new manufacturing high paying jobs that are visible today. PROCEED. Where are those SHOVEL READY JOBS?

Lay the spread sheet on us and show us the colligation. You cannot provide this vital information.....because the money was wasted, with a great majority of it going directly back into the coffers of the ones that created the REAL ESTATE BUBBLE in the first place...…..the BIG BANKING FAMILIES, with some ending up (after being laundered) into the personal bank accounts of certain politicians.

Once again we find JOE BIDEN as the point man in supposedly keeping track of HOW dollars where to be dolled out. SHOW us evidence of him documenting how the money was spent....and how that stimulated JOB CREATION on main st. as promised. What....it just took 8 years to kick in?
 
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that's why people have gone to the web for their news.....its THEY THAT GET TO DECIDE WHAT IS TRUE AND WHAT IS NOT....

Are you serious? You think TRUTH is decided by MAJORITY VOTE?


OK, you seem to be interested in employment figures. Take a vote on this:

Number of full-time employees in the U.S. 1990 - 2019

https://www.statista.com/statistics/192356/number-of-full-time-employees-in-the-usa-since-1990/

[It's a graph which I can't copy here, sorry.]

You can see the 2008 recession and the recovery which took 4-5 years; but can you spot where the stable genius took over?
 
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