Trump's economy is booming, but so is inequality

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On the economy, Obama owns Trump

Lie.

 

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So you did support Bush.

Lie.

You said before you didn't, now you're hedging that and saying you didn't really support him.

False dichotomy fallacy.

So that's a goalpost shift.

No, that's a false dichotomy fallacy.

What didn't you really support?

Argument of the stone fallacy. I already told you.

The tax cuts? No, you supported those. The deregulation? No, you supported that. The Iraq War? No, you supported that too. Bans on gay marriage? No, you support that. So...what were these things of Bush that didn't make you really support him, just somewhat support him?

Argument of the stone fallacy. I already told you.

 

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How is that a liberal thing?

Price controls are a liberal thing. The never work.

Nixon put in price controls.

A liberal act. Those didn't work either.

He was no liberal.

Yes he was.

So...basically...you love Bush except for the fact that everything he did had negative consequences, and therefore, you bear no accountability or responsibility for it.

Lie.

What a fucking cop-out.

Lie.

Which is what you all wanted. YOU wanted the TSA, remember?

No. I never wanted the TSA. I still don't want the TSA. I already told you this, liar.

You're the ones who said we had to have it,

Lie.

and have all those X-Ray and scanner machines,

LIe.

to keep us safe from terrorists while we fly.

They don't. The TSA does not keep the flying public safe. The passengers themselves and the crews do that.

I'm old enough to remember your positions on these things, even though you're trying to retcon.

Lie.

So this means nothing because it's deliberately vague and ambiguous so as to allow you wiggle room to operate within the parameters, because your understanding and knowledge is really barely skin deep.

Lie.

How did Bush "ignore" the 2nd Amendment?

By creating the TSA.

He's the one who didn't renew the Assault Weapons Ban.

Irrelevance fallacy.

You're the ones who demanded we have the Patriot Act

Lie.

and FISA courts,

Lie.

and you're the ones who were perfectly OK with Gitmo,

Gitmo existed long before Bush and still exists today. I'm OK with it.

torture,

Yes, it is sometimes needed. When the U.S. tortures, it does no lasting damage.

and extraordinary renditions. You personally defended those things on this board multiple times.

Still do for gitmo. I never supported the TSA. You're a liar.

Who are you trying to fool?

No one. You're just a fool.

 

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Conservative strategy: lie big, lie often.

Bush overregulated?

Not according to Bush: “The Presidents Working Group’s March policy statement acknowledged that turmoil in financial markets clearly was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for U.S. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004 and extending into 2007.”

Bush overregulated. His opinion doesn't count.

 

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What price controls? What are you talking about?

You mean these? That was during Nixon, and everyone you support today supported them back then.

No. I already told you. Argument of the stone fallacy.

You're the ones who wanted the TSA.

Lie.

You're the ones who wanted DHS.

Lie.

You're the ones who wanted FISA.

Lie.

Now you're trying to pretend you didn't want any of this, and you're not convincing.

Lie.

 

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You didn't hit any of the goals you set for yourself in December 2017.

I hit all of them.

You didn't grow wages.

Yes I did.

You didn't reduce the deficit.

Yes I did.

You didn't increase revenues.

Yes i did.

You didn't grow the market.

Yes I did.

You didn't hit 3% growth.

Correct. I hit 6%.

That's why Republicans didn't want to talk about their tax cut in 2018 during the election; it is a political loser because it didn't deliver on the lofty promises made of it.

Non-sequitur fallacy. Lie.

 

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No, you made predictions of our economy and tax structure, which was changed by the Russia Tax Cut the GOP passed in 2017.

Lie. The Russian tax structure does not affect our economy.

The Tax Cut that didn't deliver on a single promise made of it, that has reduced you to REPETITION FALLACY on this thread.

Argument by repetition fallacy. Lie.

 

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Then you must be schizo or mentally ill; which would explain quite a lot.

Psychoquackery.

 

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How can it be incomplete data when they are the actual statements from Treasury?

Show your work.

They do not account for all tax receipts from all sources. I already showed you my sources.

 

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This from the guy whose sole response of "lie" has been repeated as your argument over 3 dozen times this single thread.

LOL.

Inversion fallacy.

 

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Treasury's statements show less revenue collected in 2018 vs. 2017.

Lie.

You have yet to post actual Treasury statements that show otherwise.

Lie.

Waiting for those links, which you said you posted but never did because you're a liar.

Lie.

 

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That's what you're doing, actually.

You didn't post a link, and you just keep repeating "lie" and "fallacy" over and over because I broke you.

Lie.

 

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Inversion fallacy.

Man, you just keep stepping in it...

Yup. That's what you're doing all right.

 

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Not by a 10 million vote margin.

There are not 10 million members of the House, dumbass.

Even in 2010, the Conservative margin was half that.

Lie.

You gotta go back 45 years to find a margin this large, the midterm immediately after Watergate.

Lie.

But I think you truly have convinced yourself of this, just like you convinced yourself last year that there would be a #Walkaway because of how mean we were being to Conservatives.

Dream on, dude.

I expect you to delete this account shortly after the 2020 election and create a new one that argues all the same stupid shit, but attempts a different "voice". It won't take long before you slip into your same bad habits and reveal yourself.

Not gonna happen.

So you say it's usual for the party to lose seats, but then you say this particular election was unusual.

It was. Fewer than the usual number of seats were lost.

Yeah, no shit. It was unusual because of the margin.

Correct. It was just a few seats lost.

 

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How is it bigotry?

The only way it's "bigotry" is if Conservatives are that fucking stupid.

Bigotry. Bigotry is a compositional error fallacy involving people as the class.

 

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Repetition fallacy.

Gonna be time for a new ID soon.

Why?

 

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Well, at least you're embracing your poor judgment.

Don't expect a lifeboat after this shit, though. We burned them all.

We are not at sea, dumbass.

 

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And you lost...bigly...last year.

You lost the gerrymandered House.

You think you're gonna do better in 2020?

Turnout in 2018 was only 1% below turnout in 2016.

If Turnout in 2020 is higher than turnout in 2018, you're fucked up and down the ballot.

And you know it.

No, we lost only about 17 seats.

 

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This is President Obama's economy......only racist white fucks think it's dumps economy.

Lie.

 

[gemini104104]

Lies? Well here is the truth in comparison to your child molesting, treasonous and mother'fking draft dodging criminal against humanity tRump compared to President Obama owning him. This includes and on behalf of the facts, versus your ghastly fiction, is when it comes to accomplishments that serves the best interests of America and global economies. This aside from tRump serving the interests of global tyrants and criminals against humanity and other ghastly ventures of theirs:

What Has Obama Done? 14 Major Accomplishments

President Barack Obama entered office in 2009 to fight the 2008 financial crisis. He immediately launched the ambitious Affordable Care Act, despite the backlash. His administration continued battling the Tea Party Republicans after they gained a Congressional majority in the 2010 mid-term elections.

Despite these challenges, he accomplished many great things by the time his term ended in January 2017. Here are the top 14 in chronological order. Find out how they match up to the 2008 "Yes We Can!" campaign promises. "

https://www.thebalance.com/what-has-obama-done-11-major-accomplishments-3306158