I can well remember the outrage when Bill Clinton pardoned Marc Rich on his last day in office. I can remember how Conservatives "blasted" Clinton and still do today for abusing his pardon power. That said, with his recent pardons of those who tRump rewarded for lying to federal authorities, and other atrocities, no longer can Conservatives say a damn thing about Clinton and Marc Rich. Then again, Conservatives have redefined what it means to be a hipocrit.
tRumps pardons make the Marc Rich pardon look like an act of compassion.
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Hoosier Daddy
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marc rich was not in any way connected to Clinton. not a democratic official, not an insider, but a big democratic donor, with close ties to Israel, with the president of Israel and the Mossad, the intelligence entity of Israel.
Bill Clinton’s 2000 pardon of Marc Rich – a Jewish billionaire who provided substantial assistance to Israel and fled the United States after being suspected of tax offenses? The pardon was granted after heavy pressure by none other than then-Prime Minister Ehud Barak, Shimon Peres, Ehud Olmert and other prominent Israelis and American Jews.
Marc Rich worked for the Mossad while also doing business with world despots.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...ire-who-cost-hillary-her-presidency-1.5465414
floridafan
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I cant wait till many of those who have been pardoned are called before a grand jury for testimony. If they are caught in a lie, which we can almost guarantee they will be, then they look forward to an indictment and hopefully incarceration. Pardons come with baggage!
You are correct. Clinton was an ancillary benefactor of Rich via his years of large donations to the Democratic Party.
T. A. Gardner
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Marc Rich was a white collar criminal of the sort the Left hates more than murderers who had fled the US and was hiding in Switzerland where he couldn't be extradited for trial. His wife paid off the Democrats and Clinton a huge pile of cash for which Clinton granted him a full pardon. He never even went to trial or stood in a court for justice. He was just some rich dude that could buy his way out of his crimes with a sleazy President--easily the sleaziest President in modern history.
cawacko
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Did you support the Rich pardon?
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
He basically cancelled the entire Mueller investigation. Lesson being, if you're going to do an investigation with the (unstated) intent of reversing an election you better be reasonably sure you're going to snag the fish you're after.
There's a lot about Trump I don't like , mostly his personality, but these pardons partially righted a massive wrong.
You worship the sleaziest POTUS ever. The fact that you condone tRump pardoning murders speaks volumes about you.
Since you have not seen the FULL Mueller report, you have no idea whether tRump is guilty or not. What is known is that the cowardly Republicans went "all in" to protect tRump at any cost.
Are you okay with tRump pardoning the Blackwater murderers like JPP tRump worshippers are?
anonymoose
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As of now he hasn't been tried for a crime associated with the Mueller investigation so it appears to me he's not guilty of anything. Maybe later. You think he'll be tried for collusion (which is not even a crime) eventually based upon the Mueller report?
Hoosier Daddy
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you are a liar. you must be thinking about trump, shit for brains. marc rich was not connected to clinton, but he was connected to THE FUCKING LEADERS OF ISRAEL AND THE ISRAELI INTELLIGENCE AGENCY MOSSAD.
WASHINGTON -- Senior diplomats in the Clinton administration initially blocked Israeli lobbying efforts on behalf of Marc Rich but were bypassed in the final decision-making process when Clinton granted the fugitive Rich a pardon on his last day in office, current and former U.S. officials said.
The Israeli government first approached senior American diplomats in support of Rich in 1995, the officials said. At the time, the Israeli government was not asking for a pardon for Rich but tacit American acceptance of a proposal to allow him to travel more freely around the globe without fear of being arrested and returned to the United States, officials said.
Israeli officials said that Rich had proposed raising billions of dollars to help Israeli government efforts aimed at economic development of the West Bank and Gaza Strip as part of a Middle East peace agreement, and that he had said he needed to be able to travel more freely to do so.
But the Israelis dropped the matter when they met with unified resistance from senior State Department officials.
Israeli leaders never again raised the Rich matter with American diplomats, officials said.
It was not until the final days of the Clinton administration that Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, in telephone conversations, personally asked Clinton to pardon Rich, officials said.
Current and former U.S. officials said they don't think the matter was raised by Barak until late December or January, and they think that was the first time the Rich case had been broached in official channels since 1995.
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-2001-02-17-0102170338-story.html
CharacterAssassin
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The Mueller Report documented at least 8 instance where all three elements necessary for OOJ were present.
Please be less fucking stupid.
anonymoose
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Don't know. I haven't read that thread.
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
Why wasn't he impeached over that? Think he'll be tried at a later date?
Well, with Republicans refusing to issue subpoenas and tRump dangling pardons for silence, the fact that tRump wasnt charged is totally understandable. He was never going to he charged with Republican protection. We BOTH know that much....)
McConnell was going to protect his tRump at all cost.
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
So you think he'll be tried for collusion (not a crime) once out of office?
Moose isn't that stupid. Deep down he knows that tRump is likely guilty but he just cannot bring himself to admit to it just yet.
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
So you think he'll be tried for collusion (not a crime) once out of office?