have to make this thread because thing1 threadbans me from an honest discussion which is really weaksauce. I never troll when people ask honest and sincere questions. What is wrong with you thing1?
Here is the thing thing1, the reason you are a bit flummoxed is because you have been living in an alternate reality. You may say I am using hyperbole here, but I mean that in a very literal way. Your view of reality and America in general was mis-aligned, so your baseline is off.
First, the reason why so many people like trump is because he is a winner. That's what a lot of it boils down to. People keep saying he can't do x y and z and he proves them wrong time and time again. He isn't a serious candidate. He can't get the nom. He can't win the general.
Lets look at what trump was up against. He was up against 16 other repubicans, many who had huge establishment backing and large coffers. Jeb had 100 million, and he drained every penny of it. Trump made jeb look like a bitch. He steamrolled the GOP establishment. Then he had to face an insurgent movement from his own party with Romney... the literal former GOP nominee trashing him and starting the nevertrump movement. He outlasted that. Then people called his convention a disaster, they called his comments about mccain not being a war hero a disaster, they called his treatment of the khans a disaster, they called him eating a taco bowl a disaster. They called his comments about megyn kelly and rosie o donnel a disaster. Trump kept winning.
Then as we know, it was impossible for him to win the general. Hillary spent a billion dollars to take him down. She MASSIVELY outspent him, something people forget to mention (I don't have the numbers on hand).. and instead he flips states that haven't been red in almost 3 decades. (No one gives a shit about commie-fornia).
The other reason he appeals to people is he is changing the dialogue of america. He is smashing p.c. culture. We have had so much SJW bullshit for the last couple of years, it's very refreshing to take all that stuff down a notch... if you have the literal president of the united states grabbing pusssy, telling it like it is, you cannot say "America is not like this", or "America doesn't stand for that. And that's what a lot of your confusion boils down to.
I have noticed that you have seemed like you are actually take the time for some legitimate introspection these days. You really have a desire for understanding, a wonder of what went wrong and what you missed. I commend you for that.
Here is the thing, when 60 million voters vote for somebody, when nearly 50% of the electorate votes for someone like trump, you can't pretend he is some massively outside the mainstream figure. You cannot marginalize him in that way. He represents the wishes of half the electorate. What you thought of as a baseline for normalcy was mis-aligned, and that's what is ultimately throwing you for a loop.
It's ok to call elizabeth warren pocahauntus. It is perfectly fine to like to grab some pussy when you are a star (as all the women want you to). This is normal. This is our actual, true reality, and you are living in it. Adjust accordingly and like focusing a lens, everything will become sharper to you.
In conclusion, I think a lot of liberals are prisoners of their own rhetoric. If you go back and look from 2008, people were calling mccain the next hitler. Then they called romney the next hitler. Then they did the same thing to trump. The only difference is trump won, so now liberals are stuck. While I don't think trump is going to be this awesome president, I do think your fears are almost entirely unfounded, baseless, and boy cried wolf syndrome. How many times do you get to call a GOP candidate hitler before no one listens to you anymore?
Trump has swagger, he is a populist, he keeps winning, and he grabs pussy. America finds that very appealing.
Here is the thing thing1, the reason you are a bit flummoxed is because you have been living in an alternate reality. You may say I am using hyperbole here, but I mean that in a very literal way. Your view of reality and America in general was mis-aligned, so your baseline is off.
First, the reason why so many people like trump is because he is a winner. That's what a lot of it boils down to. People keep saying he can't do x y and z and he proves them wrong time and time again. He isn't a serious candidate. He can't get the nom. He can't win the general.
Lets look at what trump was up against. He was up against 16 other repubicans, many who had huge establishment backing and large coffers. Jeb had 100 million, and he drained every penny of it. Trump made jeb look like a bitch. He steamrolled the GOP establishment. Then he had to face an insurgent movement from his own party with Romney... the literal former GOP nominee trashing him and starting the nevertrump movement. He outlasted that. Then people called his convention a disaster, they called his comments about mccain not being a war hero a disaster, they called his treatment of the khans a disaster, they called him eating a taco bowl a disaster. They called his comments about megyn kelly and rosie o donnel a disaster. Trump kept winning.
Then as we know, it was impossible for him to win the general. Hillary spent a billion dollars to take him down. She MASSIVELY outspent him, something people forget to mention (I don't have the numbers on hand).. and instead he flips states that haven't been red in almost 3 decades. (No one gives a shit about commie-fornia).
The other reason he appeals to people is he is changing the dialogue of america. He is smashing p.c. culture. We have had so much SJW bullshit for the last couple of years, it's very refreshing to take all that stuff down a notch... if you have the literal president of the united states grabbing pusssy, telling it like it is, you cannot say "America is not like this", or "America doesn't stand for that. And that's what a lot of your confusion boils down to.
I have noticed that you have seemed like you are actually take the time for some legitimate introspection these days. You really have a desire for understanding, a wonder of what went wrong and what you missed. I commend you for that.
Here is the thing, when 60 million voters vote for somebody, when nearly 50% of the electorate votes for someone like trump, you can't pretend he is some massively outside the mainstream figure. You cannot marginalize him in that way. He represents the wishes of half the electorate. What you thought of as a baseline for normalcy was mis-aligned, and that's what is ultimately throwing you for a loop.
It's ok to call elizabeth warren pocahauntus. It is perfectly fine to like to grab some pussy when you are a star (as all the women want you to). This is normal. This is our actual, true reality, and you are living in it. Adjust accordingly and like focusing a lens, everything will become sharper to you.
In conclusion, I think a lot of liberals are prisoners of their own rhetoric. If you go back and look from 2008, people were calling mccain the next hitler. Then they called romney the next hitler. Then they did the same thing to trump. The only difference is trump won, so now liberals are stuck. While I don't think trump is going to be this awesome president, I do think your fears are almost entirely unfounded, baseless, and boy cried wolf syndrome. How many times do you get to call a GOP candidate hitler before no one listens to you anymore?
Trump has swagger, he is a populist, he keeps winning, and he grabs pussy. America finds that very appealing.
