Trump’s Travel Ban, another bigoted dismal failure

tsuke said:
ok now that phase one is locked in can we add other muslim countries? Im generally ok with most asian muslim countries but want to start in on some more ok the middle eastern or african savage ones. We already have Chad in there we can cram in a couple of their neighbors i guess. Im sure they would have similar conditions to chad.
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Why not just ban all Muslims lol? libtards = rekt
 
Irthriuth said:
every-one-around-the-world (cept some muslims) COME ON!! (it's a celebration)
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Haha libtards are mad amirite!

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The Wokest said:
Why not just ban all Muslims lol? libtards = rekt
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cuz that would be unconstitutional? Have to do it by phases. Also we have some pet muslims that we cant ban. Like I told brother 3d in another thread. We have to show the fremen that some of the seiches are rewarded when they join us so they are motivated to fight for our empire. Banning all muslims will just cause them to unite and that would be bad.
 
No seriously, if I were to rank Muslim people's I think it would go like this:

1. US Muslims - A majority support gay marriage, probably the only demographic of Muslims in the world with that opinion. Honestly I'm not sure why US Muslims tend to be so much more progressive than other Muslim groups. I think we have the luxury of picking the most educated off from the world, it's not very easy for most Muslims to get here so we don't get a lot of hicks from the countryside.

2. Native European Muslims - Albanians and Bosnians

3. Central Asian Muslims - Most are "non-denominational" and not practicing. Uzbeks are more fundamentalist and poorer than the others.

4. Indonesians and Malaysians - Besides Aceh. Although unfortunately I think it's getting worse in Indonesia. Malaysia has definitely made progress though. Wealthier and more educated than most other Muslim nations, I think Maylasia is the richest majority Muslim nation (excluding petrostates) aside from perhaps Turkey.

5. Kurds - Warriors and bros, the heroes of the middle eastern conflict. Unfortunately not all of them are the nationalists you see on television, practices such as honor killings still abound. They tend to be poor and rural after all, this stuff sticks around. Otherwise they'd be closer to the top.

5. Turks - A century of more or less forcible secularization and laicite had some effects, they've taken huge steps backwards under Erdogan but are still way ahead of their Arab neighbors. Even under an Islamist government, 90% oppose the return of sharia law.

6. Iranians - Their government is awful but I think Iranians are generally much more liberal than their government. The people in the cities are more liberal than the people in the countryside as well. Most Iranians in the US are very liberal, but it's kind of a biased sample because that's the people that fled from the revolution. Also shia Muslims in general don't practice suicide bombings so there's a very low chance of terrorism from Iranian immigrants. Honestly I'm not sure if there's even been one terrorist attack by an Iranian, correct me if I'm wrong.

7. Pakistanis - Has generally gone backwards ever since founding. Pakistan tends to be very fundamentalist. Most UK Muslims are from there, and a majority of UK Muslims think homosexuality should be illegal, much less supporting gay marriage. Other south asian Muslims, like Muslim-Indians and Bagledeshis, tend to be better IMO.

8. Arabs - Besides the one bright spot, Tunisia. In any poll of Muslims, Arabs are almost always near the bottom in terms of regressive opinions. I think this is a reaction to their civilization being at a low point, culminating in the huge embarrassment that was the loss of Jerusalem to a group of Jewish refugees. Fundamentalist movements cropped up preaching that if they just returned to the old ways it would be the Rashidun caliphate all over again. ISIS was the decadence of this trend, hopefully some sense has been knocked into the idiot young men in the region after that movement broke part catastrophically. Saudi Arabia is also making progress, but damn, it's like going from the 10th century to the 15th.

Literally the most racist thing I've ever posted. Feel free to send this list to Trump tho.
 
The Wokest said:
No seriously, if I were to rank Muslim people's I think it would go like this:

1. US Muslims - A majority support gay marriage, probably the only demographic of Muslims in the world with that opinion. Honestly I'm not sure why US Muslims tend to be so much more progressive than other Muslim groups. I think we have the luxury of picking the most educated off from the world, it's not very easy for most Muslims to get here so we don't get a lot of hicks from the countryside.

2. Native European Muslims - Albanians and Bosnians

3. Central Asian Muslims - Most are "non-denominational" and not practicing. Uzbeks are more fundamentalist and poorer than the others.

4. Indonesians and Malaysians - Besides Aceh. Although unfortunately I think it's getting worse in Indonesia. Malaysia has definitely made progress though. Wealthier and more educated than most other Muslim nations, I think Maylasia is the richest majority Muslim nation (excluding petrostates) aside from perhaps Turkey.

5. Kurds - Warriors and bros, the heroes of the middle eastern conflict. Unfortunately not all of them are the nationalists you see on television, practices such as honor killings still abound. They tend to be poor and rural after all, this stuff sticks around. Otherwise they'd be closer to the top.

5. Turks - A century of more or less forcible secularization and laicite had some effects, they've taken huge steps backwards under Erdogan but are still way ahead of their Arab neighbors. Even under an Islamist government, 90% oppose the return of sharia law.

6. Iranians - Their government is awful but I think Iranians are generally much more liberal than their government. The people in the cities are more liberal than the people in the countryside as well. Most Iranians in the US are very liberal, but it's kind of a biased sample because that's the people that fled from the revolution. Also shia Muslims in general don't practice suicide bombings so there's a very low chance of terrorism from Iranian immigrants. Honestly I'm not sure if there's even been one terrorist attack by an Iranian, correct me if I'm wrong.

7. Pakistanis - Has generally gone backwards ever since founding. Pakistan tends to be very fundamentalist. Most UK Muslims are from there, and a majority of UK Muslims think homosexuality should be illegal, much less supporting gay marriage. Other south asian Muslims, like Muslim-Indians and Bagledeshis, tend to be better IMO.

8. Arabs - Besides the one bright spot, Tunisia. In any poll of Muslims, Arabs are almost always near the bottom in terms of regressive opinions. I think this is a reaction to their civilization being at a low point, culminating in the huge embarrassment that was the loss of Jerusalem to a group of Jewish refugees. Fundamentalist movements cropped up preaching that if they just returned to the old ways it would be the Rashidun caliphate all over again. ISIS was the decadence of this trend, hopefully some sense has been knocked into the idiot young men in the region after that movement broke part catastrophically. Saudi Arabia is also making progress, but damn, it's like going from the 10th century to the 15th.

Literally the most racist thing I've ever posted. Feel free to send this list to Trump tho.
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1-3 are great and i have no problem with. Im ok persecuting 6 7 and 8 though.
 
The Wokest said:
Any law that gives the president the power to literally say "No more Jews can come here!" is a retarded law and ridiculously overbroad and unconstitutional as it is. Trump is legally insane regardless, and even under rational scrutiny this shouldn't be allowed.
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It doesn't give the POTUS power to say "No More Jews". It gives the POTUS the power to say "No More Israelis".
 
tsuke said:
ok now that phase one is locked in can we add other muslim countries? Im generally ok with most asian muslim countries but want to start in on some more ok the middle eastern or african savage ones. We already have Chad in there we can cram in a couple of their neighbors i guess. Im sure they would have similar conditions to chad.
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He said "Chad".

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The Wokest said:
I mean like I was clearly aping totalitarian rhetoric for the purpose of irony there, but whatever.
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Either you want desirables or you want undesirables, so which is is? Even Hillbag didn't want undesirables, although she called us deplorables.
 
Kacper said:
It doesn't give the POTUS power to say "No More Jews". It gives the POTUS the power to say "No More Israelis".
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No on the face of it it does give the president the power to say "no more Jews". There would be constitutional challenges. It is an insanely broad law that needs to be modified, delegating too Mitch authority to the president. If people honestly need to be banned from a country I funny see went congress shouldn't have to approve it.
 
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