U.S. Loan to Brazilian Oil Company

Topspin said:
We support brazillian drilling but not our own. Ok got it.
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the whole thread was based on a false premise, which is usually the case when anyone posts something from Glenn Beck or Fox News.

This loan was approved by the Bush people at the Ex-Im Bank, it's not a give away of tax dollars, and Brazil is required to purchase american goods and services with it. I know dudes at halliburtion and schlumberger who would be dying to get work on brazilian oil fields.

As for our oil production, maybe things have changed since I worked in the oil patch, but I seem to remember federal royalty relief for drilling off shore and tax incentives for developing tight gas reservoirs in the U.S.. Bottom line, I think the US is well within its rights to equitably and feasibly boost american production, as well as give a leg up to american companies to work brazilian oil fields. I guarantee you the Chinese aren't sitting on their hands; they're using their monetary and political power to get shit loads of work for chinese companies in latin america. Why give the opportunities away to china, uncontested?
 
Yurt said:
lmao....professor apologizer

if you knwo the answer, spit out and prove how wrong i am...if i am wrong, i will admit it...

the bank is an executive agency...thus obama is in charge of it....
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Still waiting for you to post the date the deal was announced and the date that Obama's appointment to chair the Ex-Im Bank was confirmed by the Senate. Once you do that maybe I'll ask you to substantiate the claim that Obama can "recall this loan."
 
Yurt said:
and yet again...no substance....nothing but ad hom

at least nigel has debated substance....but poor onceler is left in the dust....cypress and nigel actually debate....whereas onceler/legion troll never do

hmmmmmmm....are you legion troll, you post like him
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LOL

You post what is basically a complete fabrication, immediately draw a hack conclusion from it, and then demand that I offer "substance" to counter your great argument!

Too funny, Yurtsie. What is there to "actually debate"? You did your usual thing of knee-jerk posting, got burned & embarassed, and now the onus is on me.

Perfect!

:clink:
 
Cypress said:
the whole thread was based on a false premise, which is usually the case when anyone posts something from Glenn Beck or Fox News.

This loan was approved by the Bush people at the Ex-Im Bank, it's not a give away of tax dollars, and Brazil is required to purchase american goods and services with it. I know dudes at halliburtion and schlumberger who would be dying to get work on brazilian oil fields.

As for our oil production, maybe things have changed since I worked in the oil patch, but I seem to remember federal royalty relief for drilling off shore and tax incentives for developing tight gas reservoirs in the U.S.. Bottom line, I think the US is well within its rights to equitably and feasibly boost american production, as well as give a leg up to american companies to work brazilian oil fields. I guarantee you the Chinese aren't sitting on their hands; they're using their monetary and political power to get shit loads of work for chinese companies in latin america. Why give the opportunities away to china, uncontested?
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Seems to me Beck is bitching about the money not going his/fox backers but instead went to the evil G.Soros. Basically he's blaming Obama for not giving BP more money.
 
Yurt said:
that doesn't change the fact that obama is the executive in charge of that agency....

not sure why you have to defend this....the money is going to offshore drilling.....obama is not placing a moratorium on that loan money....
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See that?

When presented with "substance," you only ignore it. I have rarely seen someone w/ such blinders to the truth....
 
Topspin said:
We support brazillian drilling but not our own. Ok got it.
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Actually, I'm really glad I found out about this, bro. Petrobras rocks. I love those communists!

If I ever get sick of my spotted owl hugging sh*t, this loan thingy sounds like it might open up an opportunity for me to work in Brazil. Party on, Garth!

Thanks Obama, and Import Export Bank! :clink:
 
NigelTufnel said:
Still waiting for you to post the date the deal was announced and the date that Obama's appointment to chair the Ex-Im Bank was confirmed by the Senate. Once you do that maybe I'll ask you to substantiate the claim that Obama can "recall this loan."
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so you're going to stick with factcheck.....go for it....

as i already argued....whether it was under bush or not....obama is still the CEO of that agency....for 18 months

that you're sticking to this line and not proving me wrong, makes me think you know how weak your position is....go ahead and play mommy/daddy/professor....i'll continue to have a discussion on the matter with people who don't hide the ball like immature children
 
Yurt said:
that doesn't change the fact that obama is the executive in charge of that agency....

not sure why you have to defend this....the money is going to offshore drilling.....obama is not placing a moratorium on that loan money....
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You don't get it, Yurtsie. There's nothing to defend. You're full of shit. End of story.
 
Yurt said:
so you're going to stick with factcheck.....go for it....

as i already argued....whether it was under bush or not....obama is still the CEO of that agency....for 18 months

that you're sticking to this line and not proving me wrong, makes me think you know how weak your position is....go ahead and play mommy/daddy/professor....i'll continue to have a discussion on the matter with people who don't hide the ball like immature children
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There's nothing to hide. There's just you, Yurtsie, making an ass of yourself while we all just shake our heads and laugh.
 
Onceler said:
See that?

When presented with "substance," you only ignore it. I have rarely seen someone w/ such blinders to the truth....
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i didn't ignore anything...i actually responded to substance and responded in kind

you on the other hand will bore us with yurtsie...hack....hater....etc...
 
NigelTufnel said:
There's nothing to hide. There's just you, Yurtsie, making an ass of yourself while we all just shake our heads and laugh.
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then what is this mystery answer you have that will prove me wrong? you keep claiming it exists....keep acting like a wannabe professor/mommy/daddy and requesting i find it....

well big shot....like i said, if i'm wrong, i will admit.....you have this mystery knowledge that allegedy exists, yet you refuse to put it on the board because i won't find it....

you either have it or you don't....put up or shut up dungheap
 
Yurt said:
lmao....you haven't actually had a discussion on the topic once....

at least cypress and nigel have....

poor, poor onceler....nothing to say, so solely ad hom
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There you go again, with your calls for "discussion."

The premise of the OP is a fabrication, started by Glenn Beck.

There - I gave it all of the discussion it warrants.

LOL

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