U.S. NUCLEAR SUB FORCED TO TURN BACK AFTER FUEL SNUB

You two have come up with sources I can at least evaluate. Only one of them makes a slight reference to submarines, but does not go into detail. The submarine part still makes no sense to me, but the rest is seems straightforward enough.

While Greenland is technically part of Denmark, they have a strong historical link to Norway, so trump was very unpopular in Norway, even before his recent temper tantrum.
 
That's odd. Maybe a diesel backup?

Nuclear submarines are powered by nuclear reactors that use uranium or plutonium as fuel. The reactors split atoms, releasing energy that heats water to create steam. The steam turns turbines that power the propeller and generate electricity.
While some submarines have backup diesel Engines... I seriously doubt this is one of them. And do not believe they would leave Norfolk without backup fuel regardless. The US got rid of Diesel engines in their subs, they are dangerous and often cause fires and boats sank.
 
You two have come up with sources I can at least evaluate. Only one of them makes a slight reference to submarines, but does not go into detail. The submarine part still makes no sense to me, but the rest is seems straightforward enough.

While Greenland is technically part of Denmark, they have a strong historical link to Norway, so trump was very unpopular in Norway, even before his recent temper tantrum.
Almost no ships in the US Navy run on Diesel. I don't remember actually being on one that did. Of course I was on subs and a Carrier... So... Those run on nuclear energy...
 
Depends. Nuclear subs still have a diesel engine or two in them for back up and emergencies. So... are you talking the reactor or the diesel(s)?
Wouldn't they carry enough diesel for that generator that they would almost never use? Why would they surface, and use the generator?

It is not making sense to me.
 
Almost no ships in the US Navy run on Diesel. I don't remember actually being on one that did. Of course I was on subs and a Carrier... So... Those run on nuclear energy...
A lot of my family had been Navy, so when I was younger I considered going Navy, but then I toured a Navy Sub... I am a taller individual, and quickly realized a claustrophobic individual. I admire you for your service, and thank you for your service.

But yes, I believe you are correct. At least all the submarines and carriers are nuclear. Many of the other ships are either nuclear or gasoline.

There does appear to be a diesel generator in Virginia Class submarines, but it would not be run underwater. And nuclear submarines would stay underwater throughout their deployment.
 
They don't surface and run diesel engines. Our navy is not the Russian navy...
Exactly. They might surface in an American port at the beginning or end of a deployment, but when deployed they stay underwater.

I will add that the Russian really do like getting out in the air. Not just the submarine commanders, but also the tank commanders. It is difficult to get an American tank commander to stick his head out of a hatch anywhere near combat, but Russians seem to do it all the time from what I am reading.
 
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As far as I know there is no dispute about what happened here.......I dont consider your education.....or lack there of....my problem.

Yes I only read the first 5 words of this post....given what I have seen from you so far....my time is very valuable.
LOL Yeah, you're a genius, I've seen your bullshit too. Like your take of the 14th Amendment, that's insight into your low-resolution thinking. Maybe you'll grow out of it, maybe not.
 
Depends. Nuclear subs still have a diesel engine or two in them for back up and emergencies. So... are you talking the reactor or the diesel(s)?
Yeah, I was just being a smartass, I'm aware. The OP claimed it was stranded and out of fuel. I didn't click on it, it's click-bait.
 
While some submarines have backup diesel Engines... I seriously doubt this is one of them. And do not believe they would leave Norfolk without backup fuel regardless. The US got rid of Diesel engines in their subs, they are dangerous and often cause fires and boats sank.
Agree. I just think the article, while accurate about some ships, was wrong about this one.

This fuel hub was a normal source for refueling, so leaving Norfolk without backup fuel would not necessarily be protocol.
 
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Sorry, it is not your fault that it is not making sense to me. For all I know it it my fault.
For example, the sub is likely required to run its diesel so many hours per month just to make sure it works, and the crew knows how to operate and maintain it while its running. Even if in port, this would be something they have to do and then refuel afterwards for. Part of that refueling is because there is buoyancy and trim to be maintained on a sub more so than on a surface ship.
 
There are several points to note:

1) The Navy has massively stripped at sea refueling and rearming capacity to save money

2) We have a large sub shortage due to shipyard and drydock backlogs and as well we have massive crew shortages all through the NAVY.

3) One of the ways to deal with the asset shortage is to extend deployments, and there is some indication that this is what the NAVY is doing.
 
I see people on X saying that the Norway government has issued a statement that this will not be allowed to happen again.

I am keeping an eye out for the statement.
 
On rare occasions, I have heard of American nuclear subs make foreign ports of call. Almost a year ago, one surfaced off Norway, but did not make a port of call. These are extremely unusual, so there is something wrong with the claim that a nuclear submarine needed fuel from Norway.

I might be wrong. It just seems wrong to me for the reasons I have stated, and will state.

For example, the sub is likely required to run its diesel so many hours per month just to make sure it works
Running a diesel generator underwater would kill everyone on the sub. These subs spend months underwater. Coming to the surface to run a diesel generator would give away their position. Besides, diesel generators are comparatively loud, and just that gives away their position.

I seriously could not do it. Spending months in a metal can under the water, no access to the outside world. I may have my disagreement with Damocles on other issues, but I respect him for being able to serve on a submarine. That is a brutal thing, at least for me.

then refuel afterwards
Once again, these nuclear submarines must stay underwater for months. They cannot just go into a foreign port once a month for diesel fuel.
 
On rare occasions, I have heard of American nuclear subs make foreign ports of call. Almost a year ago, one surfaced off Norway, but did not make a port of call. These are extremely unusual, so there is something wrong with the claim that a nuclear submarine needed fuel from Norway.

I might be wrong. It just seems wrong to me for the reasons I have stated, and will state.


Running a diesel generator underwater would kill everyone on the sub. These subs spend months underwater. Coming to the surface to run a diesel generator would give away their position. Besides, diesel generators are comparatively loud, and just that gives away their position.

I seriously could not do it. Spending months in a metal can under the water, no access to the outside world. I may have my disagreement with Damocles on other issues, but I respect him for being able to serve on a submarine. That is a brutal thing, at least for me.


Once again, these nuclear submarines must stay underwater for months. They cannot just go into a foreign port once a month for diesel fuel.
Fast attacks do quite frequently, but usually as part of a carrier battlegroup visit where the carrier gets all the publicity. Boomers? No. They go out, hide for like 6 months then return to port.

Diesels on a nuke boat are sound suppressed the same way they are on a conventional diesel boat, and both can snorkel when necessary.
 
Fast attacks do quite frequently, but usually as part of a carrier battlegroup visit where the carrier gets all the publicity. Boomers? No. They go out, hide for like 6 months then return to port.

Diesels on a nuke boat are sound suppressed the same way they are on a conventional diesel boat, and both can snorkel when necessary.
Any nuclear submarine is designed to spend decades without refueling. They do not need to go into port once a month to refuel. There is something off about this story. Other points is that only one article from a reputable source even mentions the sub, and that is very vague about it, the subs name keeps changing, and the other sources about it are Russian propagandists.

I am not saying it is absolutely a lie, but it is a weird claim.
 
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